http://kitwithers.fortunecity.com/antram/antram.html Last updated 1.11.2011, 41 A4-size pages, 0.1 mgb. Created 3.11.2010 from Section 3 of http://kitwithers.fortunecity.com/deacon/deacon.html Kit WITHERS 101 Allington Road, Wellington 6012, New Zealand phone +64 4 476 9554 email kit.withers"att"gmail.com (I write "att" for @ to foil spammers.) The ANTRAMS are said to have a family crest of a lamb with a ring around its neck. A coat of arms - a bend argent on a field sable - is given on the Internet. The Royal College of Arms records do not show ANTRAMs with the right to bear a coat of arms. - Mark RIGHTON. I guess that our ANTRAM ancestors arrived in England a long time ago from County Antrim, Northern Ireland. Any comments? WHAT'S NEW? *24.10.11 News just in: Mark died of a heart attack in Myanmar. Thank you Mark for all you did sharing your research. Our thoughts are with your family. *12.10.11 Mark has forwarded me info on the branch 11514 Ann ANTRAM m Wm DEAN: I think it came from Maria DEAN?, husband of 11514 22xxx *6.10.11 Mark RIGHTON has given us a new ancestor! *18.4.11 1st contact with Jo joannedawson"att"hotmail.com *3.11.10 created by deletion of Section 3 of ../deacon/deacon.html after input of the branch at 1151 Simon Edward ANTRAM by 11515 62141 Mark RIGHTON 2.11.2010.My Genealogy home-page is at http://kitwithers.fortunecity.com/genealogy.html
# He has ID 0 of the DEACON tree at 1.2 of http://kitwithers.fortunecity.com/deacon/deacon.html See there for issue. My ancestors.
PRIVACY ISSUES The primary purpose of these family trees is to preserve the history of the families and to enable contact between members. So I include living members and a method of contact if I can. If for any reason you would like your contact details excluded please let me know.
1. ANTRAM of Portsmouth, Hampshire (1689-1764) IGI mainly batches C062511-2 1654-1769 & M062511-2 1653-1872 give these families. (C062513-4 1770-1873 have DEACON but no ANTRAM or OLDING.) SUMMARY Page number for an A4 printer 1 Richard ANTRAM b by 1657 2 11 John ANTRAM m 1694 Portsmouth Rebekah OLDING 111 Elizabeth ANTHRAM 1697 Portsmouth m James DEACON *KW, JH, BT 115 George ANTRAM bp 1708 Portsmouth m Rachael BEATS 1151 Simon Edward ANTRAM I 1732 Portsmouth m Mary WEBB 3 11511 George ANTRAM 1779 Hants NELSON's pallbearer m Sarah ASHTON 11514 Ann ANTRAM 1793 Droxford m 1814 Surrey William DEAN 1791 5 11514 2 James William DEAN 1819-1865 m Fanny ACASTER 7 15114 22 James William DEAN 1856 Bloomsbury, London d 1907 *MD? 15114 3 Elizabeth DEAN 1822 Bermondsey m Henry ROBERTSON 8 11514 34 Sir Henry B ROBERTSON 1863 Shrewsbury, Salop 11514 7 Joshua DEAN 1838 London m Elizabeth MCCORMACK 10 11514 71 Prof. Henry DEAN 1879 Bournemouth MD, LL D, D Sc, FRCP 11514 711 Sir Patrick DEAN 1909 Ambassador to the US 11516 Joshua ANTRAM 1797 Bermondsey m Elizabeth POTTS 11 11516 4 Charles Henry ANTRAM 1828 Stepney d 1908 15 11516 41 Elizabeth ANTRAM b c1867 m Rangoon Alexander Wm BERNARD 11516 5 John Potts ANTRAM 1835 Stepney m Mary WILKINS 1830 Devon 16 11516 6 Simon Edward ANTRAM III 1835 Stepney 17 11516 61 Edward Joshua ANTRAM 1854 m Ellen A YARDE 18 11516 611 Edward C ANTRAM 1895 Rangoon m 11516 414 Grace BERNARD *MR 11516 612 Valentine ANTRAM 1897 Rangoon d 1976 m Hilda PHILLIPS 19 *GO 11516 62 Charles John ANTRAM m 1894 Ma HURON 20 11518 Susannah ANTRAM 1801 Bermondsey ?m 1823 Joseph DEAN 21 116 Ann ANTRAM c1702 m 1723 Portsmouth William BARTLETT 22 2 Mary ANTRAM m 1710 Portsea George SEYMOR 23 DETAILS 1 1-Richard ANTRAM b by 1657 11 2-John ANTRAM b 1675 Southwick, Hampshire m 17 JUN 1694 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire sp-Rebekah OLDING 111 3-Elizabeth ANTHRAM bp 16 JUL 1697 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire d'r of John & Rebeka d 1782 Portsmouth C062511 1654-1727. The will of Ann BRIDGES nee DEACON, ID (10)9 at ..\deacon.html, bequeathed to her niece Elizabeth Ann TRIPP, ID (10)41 at ..\deacon.html, "my writing box formerly belonging to my grandmother DEACON [ID 111 here], and all the drawings and ornamental work done by her." m sp-James DEACON (2.8.1691-20.1.1748/49) Alderman of Portsmouth They are buried in Portsmouth Church (St Thomas?).
112 3-Sarah ANTHRAM bp: 28 NOV 1701 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire dr of John & Rebeka m 09 JUN 1726 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire sp-John CARLOS Sarah ANTRAM M062512 1710-1872. (A John CARLOS had chn 1713-15 there by an Elizabeth - possibly his m1.) 113 3-John ANTRAM bp: 20 AUG 1704 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire son of John & Rebeka 114 3-Martha ANTRAM bp 30 APR 1706 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire dr of John & Rebeckah 115 3-George ANTRAM bp 05 SEP 1708 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire son of John. Left �100 in 1743 will of aunt Ann ORR [12]. 1751 Burgess of Portsmouth. Ditto Symon ANTRAM 1710 and Simon ANTRAM 1691.His will 7.10.1758 proved 26.8.1760 is at 1. ANTRAM WILLS of wills.html
He owned 10 houses.
His will mentions 2 nephews, Daniel BARTLETT [1162 below]
and William DEACON, son of sister Elizabeth [111] who married James DEACON.
WD is my ancestor: he has ID (10) at
http://kitwithers.fortunecity.com/deacon/deacon.html
m sp-Rachael BEATS (m is not on IGI)
1151 4-Simon Edward ANTRAM I bp 28 JAN 1732 St Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire
son of George & Rachel. Named in father's 1758 will. Purser and paymaster in
the Royal Navy - bp cert of son Joshua [11516]. d 14.3.1814 at Grange Road,
Bermondsey at 80. This is where his younger children were born.
He may have been a Warrant Officer.
Presumably he is Simon ANTRAM farmer at Droxford, Hants in
Universal British Directory, 1792-98, available at
www.historicaldirectories.org Hampshire
# Most of this branch is THANKS TO 11516 62141 Mark RIGHTON 2.11.2010.
df sp-Hannah WRATH Thought to be HW bp 14.11.1764 Thornhill, Yorkshire to John
WRATH. She would have been 17 when George was born.
11511 5-George ANTRAM b c1779 Hants bp 14 May 1781 Soberton, Hampshire
(where Simon and Mary were later married) illeg. "natural" son of Simon to
Hannah WRATH - thanks to Jo joannedawson"att"hotmail.com
Buried 13.7.1847 London.
He joined the Royal Navy 23.10.1793 aged 12.
INFLEXIBLE 23.10.1793 - 1.1.1794 Captain's servant
ENTERPRISE 1.1.1794 - 3.10.1798 Midshipman
VANGUARD 3.10.1798 - 00.9.1798 Midshipman
Wounded in the head at the Battle of the Nile 1.8.1798 on the VANGUARD
(NELSON's ship) as a Midshipman (17) - name spelled ANTRIM. Not reported as
wounded as the wound was thought fatal.
FOUDROYANT 00.9.1798 - 22.7.1799 Midshipman
HMS MUTINE, captured from the French 29.5.1797 at Santa Cruz de Tenerife.
MUTINE 22.7.1799 - 14.12.1802 Commissioned as Lieutenant 14.12.1802
Impress service 14.12.1802
Deptford 11.11.1803 - 25.11.1809 In command
He was a pallbearer at NELSON's funeral 5-9.1.1806.
Half-pay 25.11.1809.
1841 census Stepney, Middlesex:
George ANTRAM 60 1781 not Middlesex Navy HP
George NEWTON 50 1791 not Middlesex Main book
Elizth NEWTON 50 1791 not Middlesex
Service record: This officer entered the Navy, 23 Oct. 1793, as Captain's
Servant, on board the INFLEXIBLE 64, Capt. Solomon FERRIS; removed as
Midshipman, 1 Jan. 1794, to the ENTERPRISE receiving-ship in the river Thames,
Lt-Commanders Edw. HOWARTH and John YETTS; and from 10 March, 1798, until 22
July, 1799, served in the VANGUARD 74, and FOUDROYANT S0, bearing each the flag
of Lord NELSON, under whom, in the former ship, he was wounded at the battle of
the Nile, 1 Aug. 1798. (See Gaz. 1798 p917.) He then served for three years as
Acting-Lieutenant of the MUTINE 18, Capts. Wm. HOSTE and Lord Wm. FITZROY, on
the Mediterranean station, and, being confirmed 14 Dec. 1802, was afterwards
employed on the Impress service for a few months in 1803, and in command, from
11 Nov. in that year until 25 Nov. 1809, of the DEPTFORD tender, on the rivers
Thames and Medway. He has since been on half-pay. AGENTS- Messrs. STILWELL.
I guess this makes George "the Standard Bearer".
m 15.8.1806 Tower Hamlets sp-Sarah ASHTON Cf Sarah ANTRAM d 21.8.1836 St.
Michaels, Southampton. (Stepney is part of the Borough of Tower Hamlets.)
[1151 4-Simon Edward ANTRAM I bp 28 JAN 1732 St Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire]
m 17.6.1784 St. Peter & St. Paul, Soberton, Hants sp-Mary WEBB bp 17.6.1764
East Meon, Hampshire, All Saints, dr of Robert WEBB and Ann BREWER. Simon was
52 and Mary 20 when they were married.
Closest death record found: Mary ANTRIM (sic): d. 15.11.1845 in Farnham.
The family moved to Frost Place, Bermondsey (1793-5), and then to Grange
Road (1799-1801). St. Mary Magdalen church is at the top of Grange Road. This
is a middle class area opposite the Tower of London (South Bank). Frost Place
no longer exists. Simon was 63 when dr Carolina was born in 1795. Retired from
the Royal Navy?
11512 5-Simon Edward ANTRAM II b 28.2.1786 Swanmore, Hants bp 25.5.1786
St. Mary & All Saints, Droxford, Hampshire. d 22.9.1862 at 76: his sister
Rachel reported his death.
Joined Royal Navy 11.3.1802.
ST. GEORGE 11.3.1801 - 00.3.1803 AB.
ENTERPRISE 00.3.1803 - 00.1.1804 Master's Mate.
ILLUSTRIOUS 00.1.1804 - 00.1.1810 Master's Mate.
August 1809 commanded a gunboat during operation in Flushing.
SPARROW 00.1.1810 - 14.6.1811 Master's Mate.
PELORUS 00.1.1810 - 14.6.1811 Master's Mate.
SAPPHO 14.6.1811 - 26.5.1815 Commissioned Lieutenant 14.6.1811.
CENSOR 26.5.1815 - 10.10.1815 Lieutenant
Placed on half-pay 10.10.1816.
Promoted Commander 1.7.1852, Financial Comptroller of the Royal Navy.
Service record: This officer entered the Navy, 11 March 1801, as A.B., on board
the SAINT GEORGE 98, Capts. Thos. Masterman HARDY, Lenox THOMPSON, and Wm.
Grenville LOBB, successive flagship of Lord NELSON and Sir Chas. Morice POLE.
In March, 1803, after serving in the Baltic, off Cadiz, and in the West Indies,
he became Master's Mate of the ENTERPRISE receiving-ship off the Tower, Lt.
Commander Wm. SOMERVILLE; and while subsequently attached, from Jan. 1804, to
Jan. 1810, to the ILLUSTRIOUS 74, Capts. Sir Chas. HAMILTON, Mich. SEYMOUR,
Wm. SHIELD, and Wm. Root. BROUGHTON, he witnessed the destruction of the French
shipping in Basque Roads, and commanded a gun-vessel during the operations
against Flushing. Until promoted to the rank of Lieutenant, 14 June, 1811, Mr.
ANTRAM served, on the West India station, in the SPARROW, SAPPHO, and PELORUS
sloops, Capts. Josh. Ricketts ROWLEY and Hayes O'GRADY. He then rejoined the
SAPPHO, commanded by the latter officer, and, on 26 May, 1815, was next
appointed to the CENSOR 10, Capt. Josh. KNEESHAW. he was placed on half-pay
10 Oct. following, and has not since been afloat.
Cdr. 1.7.1852 at 66. Financial Comptroller of the Royal Navy [when he m'd?].
Witness at m of 11516 Joshua. d 26.11.1861. His will is dated 17.10.1862.
m 27.3.1817 Tower Hamlets sp-Mary Ann BREDE/BRIDE bp 6.1.1788 St. Paul's,
Deptford. Daur of John Justus BREDE & Elizabeth THOMPSON.
d 26.11.1861 at 19 Turner Street, Commercial Road East (73).
Death registered 26.12.1861. Father was a cooper, lived in Elpertown?
1841 Stepney, Middlesex:
Simon Ed ANTRAM 50 1791 not Middlesex Navy HP [Halfpay]
Mary Ann ANTRAM 45 1796 not Middlesex
1851 79 Turner St, Stepney, Middlesex:
Simon E ANTRAM Head M 65 1786 Swansmoor, Hants Halfpay Lieut. RN
Mary A ANTRAM Wife M 63 1788 Deptford, Kent
Jane PRICE U 18 1833 St George, Midd'x Servant
1861 79 Turner St, Mile End Old Town, Middlesex:
Simon E ANTRAM Head M 74 1787 Swansmoor, Hants Retired Commander RN
Mary A ANTRAM Wife M 72 1789 Deptford
Elizabeth L FERRAT U 23 1838 London
11513 5-Charles Aubrey ANTRAM b Hants bp 13.7.1788 St. Mary & All Saints,
Droxford, Hampshire. Lt. Royal Navy 9.11.1810 at 22. d 1831 aged 43.
m 12.1.1824 sp-Maria DANELL c1803 Twyford, Hants
Address given as Highbridge Rc., Brambridge, Hants. Also recorded in the RC
Register 13.1.1824, Charles' address: S. George, Kent Road, Surrey.
1841 Wintersells Farm, Chertsey, Byfleet, Surrey + a family of 3:
John SMITH 20 1821 Not Surrey Farmer
Maria ANTRUM 40 1801 Not Surrey Indp
18.4.2011: She is part of GAIGER family of Jo joannedawson"att"hotmail.com
11514 5-Ann ANTRAM b Bishop's Waltham bp 29.9.1793 Droxford, Hampshire
d 28.12.1869 Wrexham, North Wales, having gone to live (with William) in
Brymbo Hall, with their daughter Mary [11514 4].
m 18.12.1814 St. Mary's, Newington, Surrey sp-William DEAN 1791 Heswall,
Cheshire. His brother Joseph m 11518 Susannah Nelson ANTRAM.
He became an attorney in London. They lived in Bloomsbury Square, London.
He acted as the solicitor for Joshua ANTRAM [11516] in a slave compensation
claim in 1836.
Source for this branch via MR is in part maria.dean5"att"btinternet.com
wife of 11514 22xxx.
1841 Essex St, St Clement Danes, Middlesex + 1 FS + 1 serv?:
William DEAN 50 1791 not Middlesex Att'y
Ann DEAN 45 1796 not Middlesex 11514
James DEAN 20 1821 not Middlesex 11514 2
Mary DEAN 15 1826 not Middlesex 11514 4
Joshua DEAN 4 1837 Middlesex 11514 7
Mary DRING 35 1806 not Middlesex Ind. Compare 11514 1 Ann DRING nee DEAN
John DEAN 20 1821 not Middlesex 11514 x??
1851 16 Essex St, St Clement Danes, Middlesex:
Wm DEAN Head M 60 1791 Heswall, Cheshire Sol'r
Ann DEAN Wife M 55 1796 Bishops Waltham, Hampshire 11514
Jas Wm DEAN Son U 33 1818 Bermondsey, Surrey Sol'r 11514 2
Mary DEAN Daur U 26 1825 Bermondsey, Surrey 11514 4
Thos DEAN Son U 18 1833 St Clements, Middx Sol'rs cl[er]k 11514 6
Joshua DEAN Son U 13 1838 St Clements, Middx Scholar 11514 7
Elizth BAXTER U 29 1822 St Clements, Middx House servant
Charlotte TAYLOR U 27 1824 St Ann, Soho, Middx House servant
1861 23 Bloomsbury Sq, St George Bloomsbury, Middlesex:
William DEAN Head M 70 1791 Gayton, Cheshire Attorney & solicitor
Thomas DEAN Son U 26 1835 London, Middlesex Attorney & solicitor 11514 6
Mary DEAN Daur W 34 1826 St George's, Surrey Fund holder 11514 4
Elizabeth DANELL Visitor W 68 1793 Droxford, Hampshire Fund holder
[WHO IS SHE? In 1871 she is aunt to Henry TINE & sister Ann DUNN 11514 1.
She may be sister to Maria DANELL, wife of 11513 Charles Aubrey ANTRAM.]
Martha JAGGS Serv U 23 1838 Lymm, Norfolk Housemaid
Jane BARRETT Serv U 23 1838 Stepney, Middlesex Housemaid
1861 Ann is with her daughter 11514 3 Elizabeth ROBERTSON.
1871 Wm not found. But there is John DEAN 1795 Gayton, Cheshire - a brother?
11514 1 6-Ann Charles DEAN b 1818 Bermondsey, London d 1883
m1 Dec Q 1838 St. Georges East, London sp-John Edward DRING d 15.5.1840
St. George's, Africa. A Master Mariner and purser on DARWIN's ship HMS BEAGLE.
11514 11 7-Ann DRING 1840
?1851 Owthorne, Yorkshire (but this Ann may be dr of Richard & Ann of 1841;
she also appears as a servant single in 1861 so cant be ours:
Aaron SMITH Head U 20 1831 Hull, York's Schoolmaster
Charlotte SMITH Mother W 43 1808 Hornsea, York's
George SMITH Brother 3 1848 Riston, York's
Ann DRING Visitor U 12 1839 Harton, York's Scholar
m Sep Q 1855 Skirlaugh, East Riding, Yorkshire sp-Stephen Octavius JAY
b Burton Constable, Holderness, East Riding, Yorkshire. A wine merchant.
11514 111 8-Agnes Octavia JAY Mar Q 1873 Kensington, London
1881 with grmr Anne DUNN [11514 1].
1891 15 Addison Cres't,Kensington, London:
Charles JAY Head S 74 1817 Earls Court, London Banker
Violet JAY Niece S 24 1867 Burton Constable, Yorks
Dora JAY Niece S 22 1869 Burton Constable, Yorks
Agnes JAY Niece S 18 1873 Kensington, London 11514 111
Stephanie LOW Visitor M 30 1861 Burton Constable, Yorks
Kitty LOW Visitor 5 1886 Forest Hill, Kent
Mary A WAUGH Serv S 64 1827 Bloomsbury, London Housekeeper
Charlotte BELCHER Serv S 35 1856 Brockwell, Oxon Cook
Kate POCOCK Serv S 26 1865 Devon Housemaid
m Sep Q 1898 Kensington sp-John Mitchell G TREZISE Redruth, Cornwall
1901 2 Colinetta Rd, Putney, London:
John M G TREZISE Head M 34 1867 Redruth, Cornwall Electrical engineer PostOff
Agnes O TREZISE Wife M 28 1873 Kensington, London 11514 111
Mary P TREZISE Daur S 1 1900 Barnst, Herts 11514 1111
John S M TREZISE Son 9 mo S 1900 Putney, Surrey 11514 1112
Percy E RIDGE Visitor S 42 1859 Islington, Mdx Architect
Edith FREEMAN Servt W 29 1872 Strood, Kent
Sarah BALLARD Servt S 24 1877 Elston, Notts
Louisa BALLARD Servt S 21 1880 Elston, Notts
Rose LEAMORE Servt S 16 1885 Putney, Lon
11514 1111 9-Mary Philippa TREZISE 1899 Barnst, Herts reg Jun Q Edmonton
1901 with parents.
11514 1112 9-John Stephen M TREZISE .6.1900 Putney, Surrey reg Sep Q Wandsworth
1901 with parents.
[11514 1 6-Ann Charles DEAN b 1818 Bermondsey, London d 1883]
m2 sp-Owen John DUNN b 1810 Slake, Devonshire 4 chn.
1851 5 Philpot St, Stepney, Middlesex:
Owen John DUNN Head M 41 1810 Slake, Devonshire Cabinet maker etc
Anne DUNN Wife M 34 1818 Bermondsey, Middx 11514 1
Owen John DUNN Son 5 1846 Stepney, Middx 11514 12
Sarah Eleanor DUNN Daur 3 1848 Stepney, Middx 11514 13
Mary DUNN Daur 1 1849 Stepney, Middx 11514 14
Will Henry DUNN Son 5 mo 1850 Stepney, Middx 11514 15
Sarah Eleanor ROSS Mother W 63 1788 Marylebone, Middx
Elizabeth PUGH Serv U 23 1828 Borough, Surrey
1861 Ivy House, Paradise Place, Leyton, Essex:
Anne DUNNE Head W 44 1817 Bermondsey, Surrey Proprietor of houses 11514 1
Owen J DUNNE Son U 15 1846 Stepney, Middlesex Scholar 11514 12
Sarah E DUNNE Daur 13 1848 Stepney, Middlesex Scholar 11514 13
William DUNNE Son 10 1851 Stepney, Middlesex Scholar 11514 14
Rachael LLOYD Sister W 56 1805 Bermondsey, Surrey Housekeeper 11519
1871 Park Rd Villas, High North Road, Finchley, Middlesex:
Henry TINE Head U 51 1820 Poplar, Middx Retired engineer
[Is he Henry DEAN, a new sib, or Henry DRING, or Henry DUNN??]
Ann DUNN Sister W 52 1819 Bermondsey, Middx Railway shareholder 11514 1
Owen J DUNN Nephew U 35 1846 Stepney,Middx Clerk railway clea'g house 11514 12
Sarah E DUNN Neice U 23 1848 Stepney, Middx 11514 13
William H DUNN Nephew U 20 1851 Stepney,Middx Clerk railwayclea'ghouse 11514 15
Elizabeth DANELL Aunt W 70 1801 Bottey, Hants Annuitant
[She may be sister to Maria DANELL, wife of 11513 Charles Aubrey ANTRAM.]
Rachael LLOYD Aunt W 66 1805 Bermondsey, Middx Annuitant 11519
Ann M ROWE Serv U 14 1857 Roundbush, Herts Serv dom
1881 361 Victoria Park Rd, St John Hackney, London:
Anne DUNN Head W 63 1818 Bermondsey, Surrey 11514 1
Sarah E DUNN Daur U 33 1848 Stepney, Middx 11514 13
William H DUNN Son U 30 1851 Stepney, Middx Accountant 11514 15
Agnes JAY Grand daug 8 1873 Kensington, Middx 11514 111
Henry J TINE Brother U 61 1820 Poplar, Middx WHO IS HE?
11514 12 7-Owen John DUNN 1846 Stepney, Middlesex 1851 with parents.
1861-71 with mother.
m Sep Q 1872 Islington sp-Eliza GILL 1848 St Pancras, Middlesex
1881 4 Park Rd Villas, Finchley, Middlesex:
Owen J DUNN Head M 34 1847 London, Middx Clerk in the railway clearing house
Eliza DUNN Wife M 33 1848 St Pancras, Middx
Helena DUNN Daugh 6 1875 Finchley, Middx 11514 121
Violet DUNN Daugh 1 1880 Finchley, Middx 11514 122
1891 4 Pk Rd Villas, Gt North Road, Finchley, Middlesex:
Owen John DUNN Head M 43 1848 Philpot St,London Clerk in railway clearinghouse
Eliza DUNN Wife M 42 1849 St Pancras, London
Ellenar DUNN Daur S 16 1875 Finchley, Middlesex Scholar 11514 121
Violet E DUNN Daur S 11 1880 Finchley, Middlesex Scholar 11514 122
Wm Hy DUNN Son S 2 1889 Finchley, Middlesex 11514 123
Celia BORROUGHS Serv S 18 1873
1901 Marbank, Castle Rd, Finchley, Middlesex:
Owen DUNN Head M 52 1849 Philpot St,London Railway official clerk
Eliza DUNN Wife M 51 1850 St Pancras, London
Elena A DUNN Daur S 25 1876 Finchley, Middx Teacher school 11514 121
William DUNN Son S 12 1889 Finchley, Middx 11514 123
Elizabeth RIVERS Serv S 19 1882 Berks Gen serv dom
11514 121 8-Helena/Elena A DUNN 1875 Finchley, Middlesex
1881-1901 with parents.
11514 122 8-Violet E DUNN 1880 Finchley, Middlesex 1881-91 with parents.
11514 123 8-William Henry DUNN 1889 Finchley, Middlesex 1891-1901 with parents.
11514 13 7-Sarah Eleanor DUNN 1848 Stepney, Middlesex 1851 with parents.
1861-81 with mother.
1901 5 Lytton Rd, Leyton, Essex:
Sarah E DUNN Head S 53 1848 Mile End Old Town, Middx Living on own means
William H DUNN Brother S 50 1851 Mile End Old Town, Middx Living on own means
11514 14 7-Mary DUNN 1850 Stepney, Middlesex 1851 with parents.
11514 15 7-William Henry DUNN 1850 Stepney, Middxlesex 1851 with parents.
1861-81 with mother. 1901 with sister 11514 13 Sarah E DUNN.
11514 2 6-James William DEAN 1819 Bermhampstead, Surrey d 1865
1841-51 with parents. He was a lawyer in London.
m Dec 1851 Worksop sp-Fanny ACASTER 1822 Brotherton, Yorkshire d 1875
If you Google Brotherton, you will find a lot about the extended family there.
- Yet to do!
1851 East Retford, Nottinghamshire with Ann CLARK 61 Landed proprieter, etc:
Fanny ACASTER Neice U 27 1824 Brotherton, Yorks Annuitant
1861 5 Keppel St, Bloomsbury St George, Middlesex:
James W DEAN Head M 43 1818 Bermhampstead, Surrey Attorney & solicitor
Fanny DEAN Wife M 36 1825 Brotherton, Yorks
Fanny DEAN Daur 8 1853 S Pancras, Middles'x 11514 21
James W DEAN Son 11 1850 S Geo Blooms'y, Middles'x 11514 22
Frederick DEAN Son 3 1858 S Geo Blooms'y, Middles'x 11514 23
Frank DEAN Son 1 1860 S Geo Blooms'y, Middles'x 11514 24
Ann COPLEY Ser U 34 1827 ... Serv dom
Ann CURTIS Ser U 20 1841 ... Serv dom
Betsey RICHMOND Ser U 16 1845 ... Serv dom
1871 7 Bernard St, St Georges, Bloomsbury, Middlesex:
Fanny DEAN Head W 46 1825 Brotherton, Yorkshire Annuitant
James Wm DEAN Son 14 1857 Bloomsbury, Middlesex Scholar 11514 22
Frederick Wm DEAN Son 13 1858 Bloomsbury, Middlesex Scholar 11514 23
Frank DEAN Son 11 1860 Bloomsbury, Middlesex Scholar 11514 24
Edith Rose DEAN Daur 9 1862 Bloomsbury, Middlesex Scholar 11514 25
11514 21 7-Fanny DEAN 1853 Bloomsbury, London 1861 with parents.
??1871 ..ing Cres, St James Clerkenwell, London:
Mary HORNSHAW Head U? 43 1828 .., London ....
Jane HORNSHAW Niece U 25 1846 Soho, Middlesex
William HORNSHAW Nephew U 22 1849 Soho, Middlesex
Alice HORNSHAW Niece U 30 1841 Soho, Middlesex
Fanny DEAN Niece U 21 1850 Soho, Middlesex 11514 21?
Thomas HORNTHAW Nephew U 20 1851
Lousia OSWELL Visitor U 45
Martha HOOPER Serv M 37
Abraham ADAMS Serv U 21
Emigrated to Australia?
11514 22 7-James William DEAN b 1856 Bloomsbury, London d 1907
1861 b 1850 with parents. 1871 b 1857 with mother.
He worked for Great Western Railways in London.
Great grandfather of 11514 22xxx whose wife, Maria DEAN?, is thought to be
the source of this branch.
m 1Sep Q 878 Pancras sp-Alice Mary THOMAS 1860 Marylebone
1881 3 Lydford Road, Paddington, London:
James W DEAN Head M 24 1857 Bloomsbury, London Railway clerk
Alice M DEAN Wife M 21 1860 Marylebone
1891 1 Lydford Road, Paddington, London:
James W DEAN Head M 34 1857 Bloomsbury, London Railway agens 11514 22
Alice Mary DEAN Wife M 38 1853 St Pancras, London
Reginald DEAN Son 8 1883 Finsbury Park, London Scholar 11514 221
Edith Mary A DEAN Daur 4 1887 Bloomsbury, London 11514 222
1901 88 Jolgin Ave, Paddington, London:
James W DEAN Head M 44 1857 Bloomsbury, London Railway agent 11514 22
Alice M DEAN Wife M 41 1860 St Pancras, London
Reginald DEAN Son S 18 1883 Finsbury Pk, London Railway clerk 11514 221
Edith M A DEAN Daur S 14 1887 Bloomsbury, London 11514 222
Elsie DEAN Daur 7 1894 Paddington, London 11514 223
Gertrude DEAN Daur 6 1895 Paddington, London 11514 224
11514 221 8-Reginald DEAN 1883 Finsbury Park, London 1891-1901 with parents.
11514 222 8-Edith Mary A DEAN 1887 Bloomsbury, London 1891-1901 with parents.
11514 223 8-Elsie DEAN 1894 Paddington, London 1901 with parents.
11514 224 8-Gertrude DEAN 1895 Paddington, London 1901 with parents.
11514 23 7-Frederick William DEAN 1858 Bloomsbury, London 1861 with parents.
1871 with mother. 1881? To Australia?
11514 24 7-Frank DEAN 1860 Bloomsbury, London d 30.7.1923 Queensland, Australia
1861 with parents. 1871 with mother.
??1881 2 Moreton Ter, St George Hannover Square, London:
Elizabeth HULBERT Head W 60 1821 Cheltenham, Gloucester Annuitant
William P HULBERT Son U 23 1858 Charlton Kings, Gloucester Carpenter
Harriet HULBERT Daur U 22 1859 Walworth, Surrey Dressmaker at home
Mary I ALLAN Cousin U 36 1845 Lambeth, Surrey Charwoman, Deaf
Frank S DEAN Cousin U 21 1860 Paddington, Middlesex Zinc worker
This Frank has wife Maria in 1891.
11514 25 7-Edith Rose DEAN 1862 Bloomsbury, London d 1939 Australia
1871 with mother. 1881 with uncle Joshua DEAN, 11514 7. 1891?
m Australia sp- BEARDSWORTH son of the vicar of Selling in Kent, whose mother
was Shepherd NEAME with a brewery connection. They were hop growers.
11514 3 6-Elizabeth DEAN b 1822 Bermondsey, London d 1892 Bala, North Wales
m Sep Q 1846 St James, London sp-Henry ROBERTSON b Banff, Scotland d 1888.
"He was an impressive man. Had a degree from Glasgow University. He went to
North Wales and started a steel works, built railways and bridges. He was a
partner of Isambard Kingdom Brunel. He was also a Liberal MP for Shrewsbury a
couple of times. He had some beautiful properties. We went to see some of them.
The most beautiful was Pale Hall in Llanderfel, North Wales. It is now run as a
hotel. You can look it up, Pale Hall. The attention to detail is incredible, no
money spared! They used to have 32,000 acres with shooting rights. The whole
estate was sold to the Duke of Westminster, primarily for the shooting rights.
On the website there is a lot of historical interest. Queen Victoria came to
stay at the house." - MD.
1851 Chester St John The Baptist, Cheshire:
Henry ROBERTSON Head M 34 1817 Scotland
Hereford Shrewsbury Birmingham ..., Chester Coal & iron master?
Elizabeth ROBERTSON Wife M 29 1822 Burmondsey, Surrey 11514 3
Charles DEAN Brotherinlaw U 20 1831 Clement Dane, Middlesex
Assistant engineer 11514 5
John DEAN Nephew 7 1844 Peckham, Surry Scholar 11514 x1 SON OF??
John MILLINGTON Serv U 29 .... .... Cook
Elizabeth FOULKES Serv U 23 .... .... Housemaid
William THOMAS Serv U 34 .... .... Butler
1861 St Mary's Court, St Mary, Shropshire:
Henry ROBERTSON Head M 45 1816 Scotland Civil engineer
Elizabeth ROBERTSON Wife M 39 1822 Bermondsey, Surrey 11514 3
Elizabeth ROBERTSON Daur 9 1852 Shrewsbury, Salop Scholar 11514 31
Annie ROBERTSON Daur 6 1855 Shrewsbury, Salop Scholar 11514 32
Henrietta ROBERTSON Daur 3 1858 Shrewsbury, Salop 11514 33
Ann DEAN Mother in law M 61 1800 Swanmore, Hampshire Solicitors wife 11514
Charles DEAN Brotherinlaw U 30 1831 Bermondsey, Surrey 11514 3
Joshua DEAN Brotherinlaw U 23 1838 Clement Dane, Middlesex
Secretery of railway 11514 7
John DEAN Nephew U 17 1844 Peckham, Surrey Scholar 11514 x1
Catherine KEELING Serv U 18 Governess
William EDWARDS Serv U 32 Coachman
Hannah Maria BEBB Serv U 37 Cook
Sarah MAILE Serv U 27 Nursery maid
Eliza MAILE Serv U 23 House maid
Mary PEACOCK Serv U 25 House maid
Eliza GOODE Serv U 23 House maid
Elizabeth EDWARDS Serv U 70 Nurse
Elizabeth DAVIES Serv U 23 House maid
1871 13 Lancaster Gate, Paddington, London:
Henry ROBERTSON Head M 55 1816 Scotland Magistrate dep'lieut' &C engineer
Elizabeth ROBERTSON Wife M 49 1822 Bermondsey, Surrey 11514 3
Elizabeth ROBERTSON Daur U 19 1852 Shrewsbury, Salop 11514 31
Annie ROBERTSON Daur U 16 1855 Shrewsbury, Salop Scholar 11514 32
Henrietta ROBERTSON Daur U 13 1858 Shrewsbury, Salop Scholar 11514 33
Henry R ROBERTSON Son 8 1858 Shrewsbury, Salop Scholar 11514 34
Georgina BIDDER Visitor U 20 1851 Mitcham, Surrey Scholar
Sarah HOWARD Serv U 27 Governess
Elizabeth Owen Serv W 54 Housekeeper
Mary Peacock Serv U 34 Cook dom serv
Mary Sugar Serv U 37 Housemaid dom serv
Mary Davies Serv U 21 Housemaid dom serv
Mary Hughes Serv U 16 Housemaid dom serv
Sarah Hinton Serv U 22 Ladies'maid dom serv
Culham Brook Serv U 27 Butler dom serv
John Jonas Serv U 15 Underbutler
1881 13 Lancaster Gate, Paddington, London:
Henry ROBERTSON Head M 65 1816 Scotland Member Parliament
Elizabeth ROBERTSON Wife M 60 1821 Peckham, Surrey 11514 3
Henrietta ROBERTSON Daur U 23 1858 Shrewsbury, Shropshire 11514 33
John W DEAN Nephew U 39 1842 Peckham, Surrey Civil engineer 11514 x1
Louisa M STEVENSON Visitor U 30 1851 Hobart Town, Australia .. daur RELATED?
Harry STINTON Serv U 25 Butler
Edward SWINER Serv U 24 Footman
William H EDWARD Serv U 16 Footman
Sarah DAVEY Serv U 30 Cook
Henrietta RALPH Serv U 45 Ladies maid
Jane PARRY Serv U 26 Gen serv
Sarah OWEN Serv U 18 Gen serv
Williamina BROWN Serv U 45 Gen serv
Jane WEMYSS Serv U 20 Gen serv
11514 31 7-Elizabeth ROBERTSON 1852 Shrewsbury, Salop 1861-71 with parents.
11514 32 7-Annie ROBERTSON 1855 Shrewsbury, Salop 1861-71 with parents.
11514 33 7-Henrietta ROBERTSON 1858 Shrewsbury, Salop 1861-81 with parents.
11514 34 7-Henry Beyer ROBERTSON reg Jun Q 1863 Shrewsbury, Salop d 1950
1871 with parents. 1881-1901? He was knighted by Queen Victoria.
m Dec Q 1890 Corwen, Wales sp-Sarah Ann HORNBY or Florence Mary KEATES
or Margaret ROBERTS
11514 4 6-Mary DEAN b 1825 Bermondsey, Surrey 1841-51 with parents.
1891 - see 11514 7 Joshua DEAN.
m1 Jun Q 1856 St Giles, London sp-James Ramsey NEWSAM (No children)
m2 Jun Q 1867 Bromley, Kent sp-Robert ROY b 1797 d 1873 Christchurch, Hampshire
He was a barrister and partner of Henry ROBERTSON, husband of 11514 3
Elizabeth. They lived in North Wales for some time & Christchurch, Hampshire.
No children.
11514 5 6-Charles DEAN b 1831 Clement Dane, Middlesex d 1865.
1851 with sister Elizabeth 11514 3.
1861 with sister 11514 3 Elizabeth ROBERTSON.
Never married. A civil engineer.
11514 6 6-Thomas DEAN b 1833 St Clements,Middlesex 1851 with parents. 1861-71?
11514 7 6-Joshua DEAN b 1838 London d 9.11.1916 Didsbury, Manchester.
1841-51 with parents. 1861 with sister 11514 3 Elizabeth ROBERTSON.
A barrister.
m sp-Elizabeth MCCORMACK b 1842 Belfast d 1885. Two children.
1871 Cheriton, Bromley, Kent:
Joshua DEAN Head M 35 1836 London,Middlesex Barrister not in Practice 11514 7
Elizabeth DEAN Wife M 29 1842 Ireland
Susan PERKINS Serv U 22 Cook dom serv
Martha THOMAS Serv U 19 Housemaid dom serv
1881 2 Roysdean, Manor Rd, Christchurch, Hampshire:
Joshua DEAN Head M 44 1837 London Gentleman 11514 7
Elizabeth DEAN Wife M 39 1842 Belfast
Henry Roy DEAN Son 2 1879 Bournemouth, Hants 11514 71
Edith Rose DEAN Niece U 19 1862 London 11514 25
Evangaline Edith MILES Serv U 21 ... Serv dom
Sarah Lavinia MILES Serv U 18 ... Serv dom
Sarah GAYLOR Serv U 16 ... Serv dom
1891 Throwleigh, Derby Road, Holdenhurst, Bournemouth, Hampshire:
Joshua DEAN Head W 53 1834 London Barrister at law 11514 7
Henry Roy DEAN Son 12 1879 Bournemouth 11514 71
Mary A NEWMAN Serv S 45 1846 Dom serv
Mary A HATCHER Serv S 29 1862 Dom serv
1891 Roysdean, Derby Road, Holdenhurst, Bournemouth, Hampshire -next entry:
Mary ROY Head W 64? 1827? London Living on own means + 4 servants 11514 4
1901 Roysdean, Bournemouth, Hampshire:
Joshua DEAN Head W 66 1835 London Living on own means 11514 7
Jane Kimber Serv S 61 Cook dom
Emma Jane Dennis Serv S 27 Parlourmaid
Alice E Marchant Serv S 20 Chambemaid
11514 71 7-Henry Roy DEAN b 12.2.1879 Bournemouth, Hants d 13.2.1961 Derby.
MD, LL D, D Sc, FRCP.
1881 with parents. 1891 with father. 1901?
Professor of pathology and Master of Trinity Hall, Cambridge.
Google gave the following.
Without Henry Roy DEAN no penicillin?:
http://www.trinhall.cam.ac.uk/uploads/Front_Court_15%20%282%29.pdf
His obit. & PHOTO is at
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1953780/pdf/brmedj02882-0109b.pdf
An uncle on his mother's side was Sir William ... DOI: 10.1002/path.1700830242
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/path.1700830242/abstract
m sp-? Two children.
11514 711 8-Sir Patrick Henry DEAN b 16.3.1909 d 5.11.1994 Kingston-on-Thames.
Knighted 1957. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Dean gives
Permanent Representative of the United Kingdom to the United Nations 1960-1964
and British Ambassador to the United States 1965-1969. He was also a Chairman
of the Joint Intelligence Committee.
11514 712 8-? DEAN
11514 72 7-? DEAN
11514 x1 7-John DEAN 1844 Peckham, Surrey
1851-61, 1881 with aunt 11514 3 Elizabeth ROBERTSON. 1891?
1871 4 Tweednestle? Cottages, Putney, Surrey:
John DEAN Lodger 28 1843 Rockhampton, Surrey Engineer
11515 5-Carolina ANTRAM b 15.10.1795 bp 29.12.1795 St. Mary Magdalen,
Bermondsey, Frost Place Buried 1.4.1796 at 5 months.
Thomas HAMBLY was rector there 1771-1802.
(Compare Caroline ANTRUM m 22.1.1826 sp-Richard HINE)
11516 5-Joshua ANTRAM b 7.4.1797 bp 10.7.1797 St. Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey,
Frost Place, Borough of Southwark, Surrey. d 31.1.1848.
Joshua was 18 in 1815, when many RN officers were put on half pay, including
his brothers; he probably thought that the Merchant Navy offered better
prospects. He must have been a competent sailor; 26 is very young to be a
Master Mariner.
He entered the Merchant Navy and soon became a Master Mariner. He was on the
British Honduras run, captaining the ROSALIND and PETREL for example, shipping
mahogany to England (1821-1837). This is how he met Elizabeth POTTS.
Maritime records for Joshua ANTRAM:
* 19.5.1823, a ship (unnamed) from Honduras discharged a cargo of mahogany
at Hull. Captain Joshua ANTRAM (aged 26). As he skippered ships taking mahogany
to England, this must be how he and Elizabeth POTTS met, and would explain what
attracted them to Burma: mahogany -> teak.
* Lloyd's Register. Court of the King's Bench Guildhall 9.1.1824, Case of
MCGREGOR vs. THWAITES: Captain Joshua ANTRIM rescued the family of Thomas
CHALMERS from the Mosquito Coast from the failed Poyais colony in Honduras
waters on 29.7.1823. The parents died during the voyage back to England, but
Captain ANTRIM took the 3 children to Poplar and appeared as a witness in the
case.
* Joshua ANTRIM captained the ROSALIND from Honduras in 1825. PRINCE, the
ship's owner, became bankrupt during the voyage. - If Joshua skippered ships
taking mahogany to England, this must be how he and Elizabeth met, and would
explain what attracted them to Burma: mahogany (teak).
* Vol. 1, #1, July 1 1826:�Shipping information, Belize Harbour, 1.7.1826:��
Loading for Europe:� "LADY MCWORTH", MONTGOMERY; "VESPER", TALBERT; "GLATTON",
LAWTON; "PETREL", ANTRAM; "VENERABLE", BURTON; "HELEN", COX; - many other
"SHIPS" and their MASTERS are named.
� * Vol. 1, #27, December 30: Passengers arrived:�In the ARETHUSA, from
London, Mrs. ARROWSMITH, Mr. GLEIM, and the Miss POTTS (?). �In the PETREL,
from London, Mrs. ANTRAM, and Masters John and Richard WARD.�
* Joshua frequently traded with Belize and took his pregnant wife home in
his ship PETREL. The PETREL left March 1827. It arrived Gibraltar from Honduras
on 24.4.1827, having passed a waterlogged hull at lat. 43 long. 35. The
PETREL's home port was Poole, Dorset.
* A letter written by Joshua ANTRAM on 16.9.1830 complains about a tedious
voyage of 12 months. He therefore wasn't always enamoured by his profession.
* Letter from William DEAN (husband of sister Ann 11514) 13.6.1831 mentions
a letter from Joshua ANTRAM saying that he was about to sail from Rio to
Trinidad.
* Asiatic Journal: arr. 7.8.1833 at Calcutta, CLORINDA from London and
Mauritius - ANTRAM. Joshua had transferred to the India run by 1833.
* Liverpool Mercury 19.12.1834, Captain ANTRAM of the CLORINDA from Calcutta
to Ascension.
* Joshua ANTRAM listed as the Master of the CLORINDA 28 .10.1835 London.
30.3.1836. CLORINDA 246 tons of London (for Demerara?), Cover dated 15.3.1841
refers to the CLORINDA bound for Australia in 1836.
* Perth Gazette & Western Australia Journal 4.10.1838: Dep. Perth, CLORINDA
for Timor and Mauritius. Master = ANTRAM.
* Joshua probably purchased the CITY OF LONDON in 1839, a 3-masted barque,
built of live oak in Honduras, in 1837 according to The Pioneers Association
of Australia.
* The barque CITY OF LONDON left London on 12.11.1839 via The Downs and
arrived in Adelaide on 19.3.1840 with 22 passengers (128 day voyage).
Master = Captain Joshua ANTRAM, i.e. he was a Merchant Navy Captain.
* South Australia Register: 11.4.1840, Adelaide: For King George's Sound,
Swan River and Batavia. The fine, fast-sailing barque CITY OF LONDON, 395 tons,
Joshua ANTRAM Esq., Commander. She will be ready to proceed to sea next week.
For freight or passage apply to Commander. AUGUST & COOKE Agents to the vessel.
* CITY OF LONDON, discharging from London 25.4.1840, ANTRAM, master.
* South Australia Register. Hauled out of the water on 11.9.1840, and then
on 26.9.1840 CITY OF LONDON, 395, Master = ANTRAM, dep. Adelaide for South
Australia.
* Sydney Gazette & NSW Advertiser: South Australia 20.10.1840: CITY OF
LONDON, 395, ANTRAM (arr. Sydney, see 17). He began to operate between India
and China 1841-5.
* Joshua ANTRAM was the Master of the CLORINDA or CALINDA in 1841 - on the
Australia run. His name is not found on the list of Masters and Mates in 1845.
* A letter from Joshua ANTRAM to James HYDE recommending the use of
mahogany for shipbuilding, dated 19.2.1842 and held at Oxford University, shows
he was in London in 1842, had been on the Honduras run from 1821-1837 and was
by then a ship owner. This supports the idea that he had transferred to the
Australia run in about 1837.
* CITY OF LONDON, Captain ANTRAM, dep. Madras 13.3.1842, arr., Singapore
8.4.1842, (26 days) dep. for Chusan (Zhejiang) 21.4.1842.
* Singapore Press: reports an accident on 16.11.1844. Captain ANTRAM of the
CITY OF LONDON was severely injured in the chest by a beam. He was carried
ashore on a plank by the boatmen. Captain PATRICK of the VULCAN was also i
nvolved; he swam ashore.
* CITY OF LONDON left Madras 19.5.1845, Captain ANTRAM. Leaky ship, put in
to Mauritius for repairs and discharged cargo and passengers, including Mrs.
ANTRAM and son. The ship had been in India since 1841 and traded with China.
The route to Burma: England - Gibraltar - Ascension - Cape Town - Mauritius -
Madras - Moulmein.
* 23.6 1846 Capt. ANTRAM passenger on ERIN, dep. Madras for Moulmein.
* 16.8.1846 Captain ANTRAM's departure from Rangoon to Moulmein delayed.
* 20.1.1847 Letters between the missionary Dr. Adoniram JUDSON [b 9.8.1788
Malden, Massachusetts] and his wife Emily show that three ships' captains
annoyed them by not helping them to move quickly from Moulmein to Rangoon.
Joshua's family left Madras for Moulmein 19.1.1847; he would have been more
interested in his own family than in the JUDSONs. Note the exchanges in some of
the correspondence:
JUDSON: Captain ANTRAM was to take passage in the ERWIN.
Emily JUDSON: Captain ANTRAM has sent word that he leaves tomorrow, and A's
servant made plenty of noise.
JUDSON: 29.1.1847. ANTRAM and the rest will be anxious to return.
JUDSON: 2.2.1847. Complains that he is being shuttled between the THISTLE,
the GYNE and the CITY OF LONDON by the Captains (ANTRAM & Co.).
Emily JUDSON: 22.2.1847. Calls the Captain of the CITY OF LONDON a 'regular
bear with a reckless character and a half-mutinous crew'. The Captain first
said JUDSON's goods had to be removed from the ship, and then said they could
remain.
JUDSON: 'But why? You said yesterday that they could not remain.'
ANTRAM: 'The truth is, Sir, my boys are bad fellows; they say they have
worked three Sundays and won't work today, and I can't make them.'
It is possible to conclude why the ANTRAM family went to Burma. Joshua ANTRAM
and his wife's family were involved in the mahogany trade. The Belizean slaves
were freed in 1833, which caused the mahogany trade to slump. The former slave
owners were compensated (see above) and the British were now interested in
Burmese teak as a replacement. The wood was widely used for shipbuilding,
furniture, etc.
Joshua ANTRAM is mentioned as the Master of the CALINDA in 1841 on the
Australia run.
Joshua was in London as late as 19.2.1842. Elizabeth ANTRAM (daughter) married
Robert SHEPPARD on 12.4.1847 in Moulmein. They therefore went there between
1842-47. Moulmein and the Tenassarim coast were ceded to Britain after the 1st
Anglo-Burmese War. Moulmein was the capital of British Burma from 1826-1852.
(There is still an ANTRAM Street there. - Gerry. Presumably named after
Joshua.) Joshua's name is not on the Masters & Mates list in 1845; he must have
resigned his commission to emigrate to Burma.
The family seems to have finally settled in Burma by 1847.
Passenger lists give the following:
Madras departure for Moulmein on the ERIN 23.6.1846: Captain ANTRAM
Madras departure for Moulmein on the CITY OF LONDON 19.1.1847: Mrs. ANTRAM
(Elizabeth POTTS), Misses ANTRAM (Elizabeth 11516 2, & Amelia 11516 3) and
Mr. ANTRAM. The boys are not mentioned. Mr. ANTRAM is probably Master John
Potts ANTRAM, [11516 5].
Joshua ANTRAM's presence in Burma in 1846 was confirmed by Colesworthy GRANT,
writing of his travels through Burma in 1846, he states 16 August: 'Delay in
Captain ANTRIM's departure for Maulmein enables me to add that I have paid my
first visit to the far-famed Golden Pagoda of Rangoon.'
Records of Old Moulmein state that the Anglo-Vernacular School was in ANTRAM
Road in 1880.
His wife, 2 daughters and probably John arrived in Burma in 1847, Charles and
Edward between 1847-1851. Joshua seems to have had ended his permanent naval
career by 1845 and concentrated his efforts on the new teak trade. He was
drowned in the Rangoon River at Botataung in 1854. Botataung = 1000 Military
Leaders in Burmese. Joshua could be interred in the Rangoon Cantonment
Cemetery.
The British built a pontoon bridge across the Rangoon River after the
annexation. Tradition relates that Joshua fell off this bridge during its
construction and drowned in 1854. This cannot be true, as Joshua tragically
died in 1848, a few months after his family's arrival in Burma. India Office
records his death on 31.1.1848 and his burial on 1.2.1848 in Moulmein, before
Rangoon was annexed. No cause of death is given. It sounds as though he was
drowned in Moulmein and Charles and Edward came to Burma after hearing this
news.
Elizabeth (aged 50) was now left in a strange country with 5 children, the
eldest of whom was 21. There was probably nothing left for her in England, with
their house and possessions sold. She must have received help from her
husband's naval colleagues, e.g. Captain Robert SHEPPARD (aged 31), who married
her eldest daughter and employed her son Edward as a Second Mate on his ship,
the MONARCH.
The annexation of Burma was completed after the 3rd Anglo-Burmese War
(1885-6), and the last king was deposed and exiled.
Kings of Burma: Possible further records:
Bagyidaw 1819-1837 Bombay-Burmah Trading Company
Tharawaddy 1837-1846 Cantonment Cemetery Rangoon
Pagin 1846-1853 Irrawaddy Flotilla Company founded 1865
Mindon 1853-1878
Thibaw 1878-1885
John Potts ANTRAM [11516 5] took his widowed mother back to England 1861-1863
when the Indian Navy was disbanded, after having lived in Burma for about 15
years. He married in England, had 2 children, both born in England, and died in
Devon in 1881. Elizabeth ANTRAM, n�e POTTS, also died in Devon in 1881. The
rest of the family ended their days in Burma, except possibly Amelia Patience
ANTRAM, who may also have returned to England with them. No death or marriage
records have been found for her in either England or Burma.
The ANTRAM family originated in Hampshire, the men from Portsmouth, due to the
Royal Navy connection. The POTTS family were from County Durham. The family
surname was never POTTS-ANTRAM.
m 8.11.1823 St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney sp-Elizabeth POTTS b c1796
British Honduras. d Jun Q 1881 Barnstaple, Devon aged 85.
Daur of John POTTS Sr; his will drawn up on St. George's Caye in the Bay of
Honduras in 1821, names his three children as beneficiaries: John POTTS Jr.,
Sarah WARD and Elizabeth. He d 15.10.1821, was buried on 16.10.1821 on the Caye
and is described as a white man aged 66, i.e. born 1755, in County Durham.
He was listed as a magistrate on 20.7.1812. John POTTS Sr. was a slave owner
(Indian = Maya). Letters document the efforts of his son John POTTS, Esquire,
of Belize, to recover from the British government the value of certain Indian
slaves bequeathed to him and his two sisters, Mrs. ANTRAM and Mrs. ADAM, by
their father's estate.
Pallot's Index and the BMD Index for England: Joshua ANTRAM (of this parish
[London]) married Elizabeth POTTS (of the parish of St. George in Middlesex)
at St Dunstan and All Saints Anglican church, Stepney, London 8.11.1823.
Witnesses Richard SPEER & Mary Ann ANTRAM, wife of 11512 Simon.
[Cf Rd SPEER bp 1790 St. Paul's, Hammersmith to Rd. and Eliz. SPEER. He had a
sister Elizabeth. The following died in Middlesex: Mary SPEER (1828), Ann SPEER
(1845) and Elizabeth SPEER (1847).
(A church plaque gives Thomas BARNEBY as the Rector, but this is not the
minister's name on the marriage record.)
A possible death record also estimates a birth in 1796.
The family's fortunes fell when the Belize mahogany trade slumped after the
emancipation of the slaves. Joshua initially transferred to a passenger service
between England and Australia. The Burmese teak and the family's experience
with mahogany attracted him to Burma. He began contemplating a move in 1835,
and could have first visited Burma in 1837 as tradition says. The fact that the
children were in boarding schools in London in 1841, with no mention of the
parents, suggests that perhaps the parents went there first to see how things
were.
Cousins Thomas & John POTTS were two of the 85 colonists who signed Rear
Admiral Sir William BURNABY's Code of Laws in 1765.
1871 2 Lansdown Ter, Dentner Rd, Hackney St John, London with Sarah DOLMAN:
Elizabeth ANTRAM Boarder W 72 1799 Honduras, India Annuitant
John Potts ANTRAM Boarder M 38 1833 Stepney, Midd'x Paymaster Indian Navy
11516 5
1881 Elizabeth a W with son 11516 5 John P ANTRIM.
Mrs. ANTRAM arrived in Belize, December 1826 in the PETREL, and Masters John
and Richard WARD [sons of her sister Sarah POTTS who m1 Richard WARD (Master
Mariner) and m2 John ADAM (ship owner)], Captain ANTRAM Master. Son Joshua
Thomas is not listed as a passenger. They left Belize March 1827. No record of
any ANTRAM births in Belize.
Their 4 younger children were all baptised on the same day. This supports the
idea that the parents were planning to emigrate and baptised them quickly.
The 1841 census shows the parents and eldest son were not in England in 1841.
Yet the Joshua ANTRAM above captained a ship out from England in 1839.
Another newspaper report gives his name as Joseph (see above). Was this a
different man? What happened after the baptisms? The 1841 census lists
children 2 Elizabeth, 3 Amelia, 4 Charles, 6 Edward, at 2 schools in Lambeth.
So the parents left these 4 behind at school and took baby John Potts with
them - probably to Burma. Joshua Thomas would have been listed in the census if
he were "under training" in England. No death record was found for him, but he
must have died, or else he was also with his parents in Burma in 1841.
None of the names are listed in the 1861 census. All the children
had therefore left England between 1841-1851. The 1871 census lists John Potts
ANTRAM and his mother Elizabeth, who both must have returned between 1861 and
1871.
Here are more notes on the POTTS family by Mark RIGHTON. NB This file http://kitwithers.fortunecity.com/antram/potts.txt
also contains notes on CALOGREEDY, BERNARD, and YARDE families.
For some history of the Burmese royal family, after the British imprisoned the King in 1885, see "The Glass Palace" by Amitav GHOSH, or click on http://www.tehelka.com/story_main50.asp?filename=hu170911Leaving.asp
11516 1 6-Joshua Thomas ANTRAM b 16.9.1824 bp 8 Oct 1824 St Dunstan and All
Saints, Stepney, Middlesex. Buried 6.3.1905 26 St. John's Rd., Bootle St. Mary.
The record says alias Daniel GOODWIN. Perhaps Joshua died young
& his parents adopted a Daniel GOODWIN, renaming him after Joshua.
m 13.4.1857 (aged 28 b1829) St. James, Walton on the Hill, Lancs. sp-Mary
WILKINSON b 1828. She was a widow aged 29, daughter of John WALMSLEY (sawyer).
He signed as Joshua ANTRAM, sailor, son of Joshua ANTRAM sailor,
50 Greenland St. Mary signs with an X - 60 Lower Stanhope St.
She d Sep Q 1867 aged 38 (b. 1829). Her 1st m was 27.4.1845 to James
WILKINSON, both of Greenland St., at St. Michael's Liverpool, both signed with
an X, dr of John (sawyer). Witness Thomas WALMSLEY.
11516 11 7-Ellen Helena ANTRAM b 23.12.1863 bp 4.1.1864 St Peter's, Liverpool.
11516 2 6-Elizabeth ANTRAM bp 6 Jun 1827 St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
d 1858 at 32.
1841 Parish of St. Giles in Camberwell:
Elizabeth ANTRAM 15 b 1826 11516 2
Amelia Patience ANTRAM 12 b 1829 11516 3
Catherine HEADLEY Schoolmistress 25.
She left Madras .1.1847 to marry.
m 12.4.1847 Moulmein, Burma sp-Robert SHEPPARD 1816 son of William.
Master Mariner: ex Parish register transcripts Presidency of Bengal 1713-1948.
Papers relating to hostilities with Burma report a letter written to Lt. Col.
BOGLE, Commissioner of the Tenassarim Province, by Captain Robert SHEPPARD,
Master and owner of the barque MONARCH, 249 tons, transport ship, commenting
on an incident at Rangoon on 7.6.1851. The Burmese say SHEPPARD threw the pilot
overboard. SHEPPARD says the pilot jumped overboard as he was afraid of the
consequence of his incompetence, and alleges a wrongful fine and subsequent
mistreatment of himself and his crew by the Burmese. - Statement signed by
Edward ANTRAM, Second Mate. [11516 6 Simon Edward ANTRAM.]
No records found of children, but tradition says her children emigrated to
Sydney in Australia.
11516 3 6-Amelia Patience ANTRAM 1829 bp 7 Oct 1835 St Dunstan and All Saints,
Stepney. 1841 at school with sister 11516 2 Elizabeth ANTRAM.
The Madras-Moulmein passenger list shows that she went to Burma in 1847.
11516 4 6-Charles Henry ANTRAM b 1828 bp 7 Oct 1835 St Dunstan and All Saints,
Stepney d 1908 aged 80.
1841 Northampton House, Hight Street, Lambeth, Parish of St. Marys:
Charles ANTRAM 13 b 1828 11516 4
Edward ANTRAM 10 b 1831 11516 6
Henry MATHEWS Schoolmaster 30 1811.
Charles had a career in the Postal Service in Burma and India.
THACKER's Directory records British residents in India and Burma employed as
civil administrators and as Army and Navy personnel:
1867-9 Postmaster Thyetmo.
1870-8 Head Clerk/Postmaster Rangoon.
1879-89 Postmaster Lucknow India.
He is said to have become the Postmaster General of Burma. He is last
recorded in 1908 as a government pensioner aged about 77.
1911 England census: 80 b 1828
m sp-?
11516 41 7-Elizabeth ANTRAM b 1867/8. d c1906/8 c40 from pregnancy
complications. 8 chn.
m 18.5.1886 Holy Trinity Anglican church, Rangoon sp-Alexander William BERNARD
c1854-59. d 25.11.1932 at 77. He was RC and their children were raised
Catholic. She was 18 & he 26. MR's mother said Alexander William was of medium
height, was mauled by a tiger, wore a knitted cap (to cover the marks of the
mauling?) and swore profusely at the theft of his mangoes. She said he looked
much older than above and was an Englishman from Devon. This suggests that he
may have known John Potts ANTRAM and his mother Elizabeth Potts ANTRAM, who
were living in Devon until 1881, and came to know his wife through them.
(John's wife, Mary Shew WILKENS, was born in Ilfracombe.)
M. Cert?: Alexander is an Engineer and his father is James BERNARD.
[James BERNARD b 1818 Tavistock, Devon d 1891 Cornwall OR
James Bernard b. 1823 Devon, d. 1891 Cornwall. Same man? 3 m's are recorded of
men called James BERNARD: 1847 Faversham, 1852 Strand, 1859 Shoreditch.
11516 411 8-Theophilus William Antram BERNARD b 8.8.1886 bp 14.11.1886
His father is listed as Alexander William Jacob BERNARD.
11516 412 8-Rosaline Margaret Stella BERNARD 10.7.1887 bp 30.11.1887 d 1930-32
Known as Aunty Mamie.
11516 413 8-Charles Henry BERNARD 15.12.1891 bp 17.1.1892
11516 414 8-Grace Hilda BERNARD b 15.11.1897 Rangoon bp 16.2.1898 d 9.11.1930
Rangoon.
m sp-Edward Charles ANTRAM b 24.8.1895 Rangoon His m1.
# He has ID 11516 621 below. See there for issue.
11516 415 8-Ethel Annie BERNARD 28.2.1899 d 1942
Known as Aunty Tiny. Her mother is listed as Ethel - a clerical error.
m sp-Edward Charles ANTRAM b 24.8.1895 Rangoon His m2.
# He has ID 11516 621 below.
11516 416 8-Alexandra Myrtle BERNARD 10.12.1901 bp 5.11.1902
11516 417 8-Daisy Alice BERNARD 5.1.1904 bp 29.5.1904
m 19.10.1926 sp-George Boniface INNES
11516 418 8-Edward Joshua BERNARD 19.8.1905 bp 17.10.1905. Unmarried.
11516 5 6-John Potts ANTRAM bp 7 Oct 1835 St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
d 1881 aged 48. Indian Navy records:
25 Jan 1855 Captain's Clerk on HMS CONSTANCE.
31 Oct 1858 Purser HMS CLIVE.
These are NCO ranks. The Indian Navy was disbanded in 1863 to become the
Royal Indian Navy. He had a son born in England in September 1864. He is not
listed in 1861, so must have returned 1861-3.
1871 with mother. 1881 with wife below.
Died 13.10.1881 at Combe Cottage, Combemartin Devon, or in Ilfracombe? Retd.
Naval Captain, widow Mary Shew ANTRAM. Registered 20.1.1882. His wife probably
"promoted" him to a Captain, as he wasn't old enough to have reached this rank
in 1863. John Potts ANTRAM took his widowed mother back to England
1861-1863. He died in Devon in 1881. Elizabeth ANTRAM, n�e POTTS, also died in
Devon in 1881.
m sp-Mary Shew WILKINS 1830 Ilfracombe, Devon daur of George & Mary.
1871 9 St Catherine Ter, Portsmouth Rd, Guildford St Nicholas, Surrey:
George WILKINS Head M 64 1807 Bristol, Gloucestershire Professor of music
Mary WILKINS Wife M 63 1808 Bristol, Gloucestershire
Mary L ANTRAM Daur M 41 1830 Ilfracombe, North Devon
Wife of purser in late Indian Navy
Helen L WILKINS Daur U 37 1834 Ilfracombe, North Devon
Laura M WILKINS Granddaur 7 1864 East Indies Scholar
Charles E P ANTRAM Grandson 6 1865 Guildford, Surrey Scholar 11516 51
Miriam H L ANTRAM Granddaur 5 1865 Spring Grove, Middlesex Scholar 11516 52
Elizabeth TUBB Serv U 22 1849 Guildford, Surrey Dom serv
Amy GUNNER Serv U 19 1852 Woking, Surrey Dom serv
1881 14 Brookfield Place, Ilfracombe, Devon:
John P ANTRIM Head M 45 1836 London,Middx Retd. Paymaster Indian Navy 11516 5
Mary S ANTRIM Wife M 49 1832 Ilfracombe
[Died 1904 aged 75 in Eastbourne so b 1829]
Miriam ANTRIM Daur U 15 1866 Spring Grove, Middlesex Scholar 11516 52
Elizabeth ANTRIM Mother W 84 1797 British Honduras, Wst Ind W of 11516
1891 census in Church Road, West Kirby, Cheshire:
Mary S ANTRAM W 1830 Ilfracombe
Miriam H J ANTRAM Daur 1866 Spring Grove 11516 52
11516 51 7-Charles Edward Potts ANTRAM bp 19.9.1864 St. Nicholas, Guildford
s. of John Potts ANTRAM and Mary SHEW . d. 22.1.1934 St. Pancras.
1871 with mother & grandparents.
31.1.1918: Rev. Charles Edward Potts ANTRAM, Vicar of Blean, Submarine K17
i.e. RN chaplain in WWI.
He wrote 3 Baptist books: The Garrisoned Soul; The Man, the Mummy and the
Fiery Cloud; and The Tenses of the Cross.
m 1890 Romford reg Dec Q Toxeth Park, Lancs sp-Alice Hurry GOLDING b 1861
Liverpool, Lancs d 1937 Dorset No chn. John was in London with his mother.
1891 Manse, Broomhaugh, Northumberland:
Charles E P ANTRAM Head M 26 1866 Guildford, Surrey Baptist minister
Alice H ANTRAM Wife M 30 1861 Liverpool, Lancashire
Mary CAINE Serv S 15 1876 Garston, Lancashire Serv dom
1901 Gordon St Villas, Woking, Surrey:
Charles E P ANTRAM Head M 36 1865 Guildford, Surrey Baptist minister
Alice H ANTRAM Wife M 40 1861 Liverpool, Lancs
11516 52 7-Miriam Helen Lloyd ANTRAM b 1866 Brentford d 1942 Sturminster,
Dorset.
1871 with mother & grandparents.
1891 with mother.
1911 census Eastbourne:
Miriam Helen Lloyd ANTRAM
Alice and Miriam were probably living together as they both died in
Dorset. Miriam ran a teashop in Eastbourne called THE GEISHA with Margaret
FERGUSSON; the partnership was dissolved 16.8.1905 (London Gazette 22.8.1905).
Miriam is the last known English born ANTRAM descendant of Joshua ANTRAM and
Elizabeth POTTS.
11516 6 6-Simon Edward ANTRAM III bp 7 Oct 1835 St Dunstan & All Saints,
Stepney. d 7.2.1878. 1841 as Edward at school with br 11516 4 Charles.
?aka Edward Joshua ANTRAM Sr. b 1839 d 1878 at 39.
1841 at school as Edward with brother Charles 11516 4.
He must have first come to Burma 1841-1851, probably around 1846. Tradition
said 1854 with the Royal Navy. RN records in the Public Records Office do not
show a commissioned officer or a rating of this name. The records of Britannia
Royal Naval College at Dartmouth do not go back as far as this. The lack of a
record makes it doubtful that he was in the Royal Navy. The significant dates
in his life are difficult to interpret if he was born in 1839, as the marriage
and death certificates imply, but become logical if he were Simon Edward b
1831.
1861 Captain of SS COLONEL PHAYRE & another steamer - IFC records.
Thacker's confirms: 1864 Customs collector Bassein.
Irrawaddy Flotilla Company manager SWANN wrote in May 1864: Since the
government gave over the Steam Flotilla to the present proprietors, Captain
ANTRAM has acted as the Commander of the (illegible) and COL PHAYRE. In the
latter he had been in charge for over 3 years and during the last year in which
the mails were carried under the old postal contract, he worked the service
twice a month between Rangoon and Thayetmo with most creditable energy. With
passengers of all kinds, but more especially those who travel first class, he
is very popular and he also stands well in the opinion of native shippers. From
the heavy draught of the COL PHAYRE, Captain ANTRAM has not been able to take
his vessel to Mandalay in the dry season, but notwithstanding this the earnings
throughout the year are fair compared with those of the other steamers. As a
Commander he has been successful, never having damaged his steamer in any way
and he has always shown a disposition to put first his best exertions to
advance the interests of the Company. He takes command of the RANGOON when
ready. His salary is R300 per month with 2% commission on the steamer's gross
earnings minus the Government Bills from both of which sources of income he has
received during this year about R510 monthly.
1865-66 Captain of SS DAMOODAH.
Not recorded after this date. This shows that Thacker's Directory is not
complete as he was still with the Irrawaddy Flotilla Co. in 1878.
His marriage (bachelor aged 32) & death certificates describe him as a
Captain in and the Commander of the Irrawaddy Flotilla Company respectively,
and both give an age that corresponds to a birth in 1838/9, i.e. he would have
been 14 or younger when his eldest was born. This seems highly unlikely.
He was the Second Mate on the MONARCH in 1851 (see the story about the
husband of his sister 11516 2 Elizabeth). This proves he could not have
been born in 1839. A Second Mate cannot be 12 years old, and it again implies
that Simon Edward and Edward Joshua are the same man, in which case a birth in
1831 makes more sense. He could have joined the Royal Navy and then have come
to Burma when he was easily old enough to have had children.
It cannot be certain that his children all had the same mother but, if they
did, three children suggest a settled family with a common law wife and not a
casual relationship. Hilda ANTRAM (wife of Valentine Hugh) suggested an
association with a woman named Daw GOON prior to his marriage in 1871. Daw
means 'Aunty', and is usually given to a more mature lady. A suggestion is not
proof (-Elizabeth nee POTTS's mother may be Sally BALDWIN).
Daw GOON sounds more like an ayah (nanny). 'Ma' means Miss, and would be used
for a common law wife. Note Ma HURON (wife of Charles John), Ma KHIN in the
FOWLE case and Ma YEW below.
11516 61 7-Edward Joshua ANTRAM II b 1854 d 7 October 1922 aged 68
THACKER's lists E ANTRAM as the Head Clerk in the Deputy Consvr's Office in
Rangoon in 1906.
m c1894/5 sp-Ellen Anderson YARDE b 11.4.1864 d 30.7.1951 Rangoon (poss. 1894).
4 children.
11516 611 8-Edward Charles ANTRAM b 24.8.1895 Rangoon
He died on a trek between Burma and India in 1942. See
http://ledoroad.home.comcast.net/~ledoroad/Ledo_Main.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aQdcAd-ERA
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/MA12Df03.html
"My uncle Teddy ANTRAM and family and aunt Vida ANTRAM [11516 614] died on
the HUKAWNG Valley route, known as the Valley of Death. My father, mum and us
four kids (then) trekked the Tamu/Assam route, a far better one, though there
were a few deaths along the way.
We took the Tamu route, had to do a double march through Imphal as the Japs
had bombed that city - to Dimbrugarh - then to Dimmerpur where we were all
loaded into a train to Calcutta - our party was the last to leave Dimmerpur
when the Japs bombed that place - my parents and us children were put onto a
cattle wagon the last attached to that train! I was among many who was taken
directly to the Loretta Convent hospital with malaria! It took a month to
arrive in Calcutta.
I was about 12 yrs old, remember that trek very well. We young kids used to
get up early to start our trek to the next camp before nightfall and grab our
bunks (bamboo huts put by the Brits and the Ceylon Tea Co. who were at every
Camp dishing out food and places for us each night.) We also had to get off
the walk paths when the Jap planes fly over us, and hide among trees not to be
seen. We got to be good at being able to distinguish the sounds of the Jap
plane and that of the Allies (USA & Brit). The Japs had a "tin-ee whining"
sound and they flew low we could sometimes see their logos the Sun painted on
the wings!" - Gerry [11516 6121], 2011.
m1 sp-Grace Hilda BERNARD b 15.12.1897 Rangoon bp 16.2.1898 d 9.11.1930
Rangoon. # She has ID 11516 414 above. 3 of their chn survived WW2.
11516 6111 9-Edward Joshua ANTRAM III He got out of Burma after the Japanese
invasion through British Army service. The family was scattered due to WW2.
Only Edward [11516 6111], Margaret [11516 6112] & Elizabeth [11516 6114]
survived. These 3 reached India by various means after the Japanese invasion.
The rest of the family were to take a plane to India, but there was no room for
their father. They all then left the plane, with the exception of the
grandmother (Ellen YARDE), who was considered too old to attempt a trek to
India, viz.: Edward Charles [11516 611], Vida Ellen [11516 614], his 2nd wife
Ethel [11516 6114], his daughters Camille [11516 6113] aged 22,
Maisie [11516 6116] aged 16, Grace [11516 6116] aged 12, and his son
Harry [11516 6118] aged 10.
Misses Nancy and Olive THOMPSON reported at Margharita on 4.9.1942 that the
whole family had perished on the trek between Shinbwiyang and Tagap Ga
June/July 42. Vida Ellen [11516 614] was not mentioned.
The book: 'Trek out of Burma, 1942, Evacuees List' gives 7 entries with the
surname ANTRAM, including 11516 6114 Miss A. ANTRAM.
Records found of 19 children born in the Bengal Presidency in 1875-1910 with
the surname ANTRAM, none of whom can be fitted into the family tree as it
stands. These must be members of other families. The first ANTRAM recorded as
being born in the Bengal Presidency is an Emily ANTRAM in 1869.
Descendants in Perth, West Australia.
m sp-Enid FOWLER
11516 6112 9-Margaret "Maggie" Edna ANTRAM She escaped after the Japanese
invasion of Burma in WW2 by air flight to Dinjan, India.
m sp-Dionisio Antonio FERRAZ
11516 6113 9-Camille ANTRAM 1920. Perished in WW2.
11516 6114 9-(Elizabeth) Ann ANTRAM b 6.7.1922 Rangoon. bp C of E.
(Escaped after the Japanese invasion by British troop ship to Calcutta.)
She was later re-baptised in the RC Church as Bernadette Anne RIGHTON.
Known as Anne. 2011 in London.
m sp-Walter George RIGHTON
11516 61141 10-Mark Albert David RIGHTON 1st contact 2.11.2010
Mark lived in Holland but d 20.10.2011 Toungoo, 150m N of Rangoon, of a heart
attack. Cremated 9.11.2011 Netherlands. MarkRighton"att"zonnet.nl
#He was the main source of the branch at 1151 Simon Edward ANTRAM.
Family withheld til I ask & get their permission.
11516 6115 9-Rudolph Alexander ANTRAM b 1925 bur 17.6.1925
11516 6116 9-Maisie ANTRAM 1926 Perished in WW2.
11516 6117 9-Grace ANTRAM 1930 Perished in WW2.
[11516 611 8-Edward Charles ANTRAM b 24.8.1895 Rangoon]
m2 sp-Ethel BERNARD, 11516 415 above, sister of Edward's 1st wife.
415 6118 9-Harry ANTRAM 1932 Perished in WW2.
11516 612 8-Valentine Hugh ANTRAM b 14.2.1897 Rangoon d 15.4.1976 Rangoon,
Burma. He was a pallbearer at Queen Supalayat's funeral (last Queen of Burma,
d. 24.11.1925.) He was a Customs Inspector.
Descendants in Atlanta USA and London.
m 12.8.1931 Rangoon sp-Hilda Margaret PHILLIPS b 15.11.1910 Toungoo, Burma
d 15.4.2005 East Point, Georgia, USA
11516 6121 9-Geraldine "Gerry" ANTRAM 12.1.1932 1st contact 29.6.2011
For a wonderful interview, see http://www.gpb.org/wwii/gerry-oconnor
She was forced to evacuate her homeland at the age of ten when the Japanese
began to bomb Rangoon. In her interview she describes how evacuees in Calcutta
were received and her disappointment in seeing the bomb destruction in Burma
once the war was over.
m sp- O'CONNOR Issue.
11516 6122 9-Clive ANTRAM
11516 6123 9-Dawn ANTRAM
11516 6124 9-Alexander ANTRAM
11516 613 8-Edna Gordon ANTRAM b 23.9.1898 Rangoon bp 23.11.1898 d 1917 of TB
11516 614 8-Vida Ellen ANTRAM b 3.6.1903 Rangoon bp 23.9.1903 died on the trek
with Edward in 1942. Unmarried. She may have had a child.
11516 62 7-Charles John ANTRAM 1860 d 8.6.1929 buried 10.6.1829 Mandalay.
He joined the Bombay Burmah Trading Co. Two partners and 8 children were found.
Mother? Illeg. as his fr was a bachelor when he m.
m/df 1894 sp-Ma MOHN Descendants in Beldon, West Australia.
11516 621 8-Stella Elizabeth ANTRAM 12.9.1894
11516 622 8-Lucy Mary ANTRAM 7.5.1896
11516 623 8-Margaret Grace ANTRAM 17.11.1897
11516 624 8-Stanley Edward ANTRAM 18.11.1900
m 8.10.1924 Mandalay sp-Lilian Sophia TALBOT (19)
11516 625 8-Dorothy May ANTRAM 23.12.1902
m 9.5.1930 Mandalay sp-John Ezekiel LAZARUS
[11516 62 7-Charles John ANTRAM 1860 d 8.6.1929 buried 10.6.1829 Mandalay.]
m/df 2 1894 sp-Ma HURON Descendants in Beldon, West Australia.
11516 626 8-Katherine Helen ANTRAM 11.6.1905
m 22.12.1930 Maymyo sp-William Pritchard ALLMARK
11516 627 8-Bertram Charles ANTRAM 21.5.1907
11516 628 8-Rodney John ANTRAM 10.9.1909
11516 63 7-Ethel Alexandra "Ettie" ANTRAM b 1877 before her father's
CALOGREEDY marriage. Died 23.5.1914, 5 months after m.
Buried 24.5.1914 Rangoon.
m 6.12.1913 Burma sp-John PAPPADEMITRION son of J. PAPPADEMITRION. They were
aged 36 and 45.
[11516 6 6-Simon Edward ANTRAM III (aka Edward Joshua ANTRAM) bp 7 Oct 1835 St
Dunstan & All Saints] d 1878 Burma. His marriage record describes him as
bachelor, a Captain, son of Joshua ANTRAM. He was 39. Ellen YARDE described
'the Captain' as a big, heavily built man who couldn't fit into a rickshaw.
She was 14 when he died so she must have known him.
m 28.1.1871 sp-Prasiavy Matilda "Mattie" CALOGREEDY b 8.6.1853 Amarapura
d 6.3.1928 Mandalay. Daughter of a sea merchant, Demetrius George CALOGRATHY
(b 1730 Nio, Agean island, Greece; d 17.10.1790 Calcutta), who signed the
Hastings Sinai Petition 1811, & Mary d Dacca at 57. - Info thanks to
Grace CARMICHAEL gracemizpah"att"aol.com (1st contact 12.6.2011), whose
husband descends from Mattie's brother Sperodon CALOGREEDY. Grace has put
together their tree & shared info with me: At 13, Meti (as she was known by
the Burmese), a close playmate of Princess Supayalat, daughter of King MINDON,
helped restore her father's lease on the Mu Forest, & thus his wealth. Her
advice was sought by many who wished to keep their heads on their shoulders.
A keen photographer, Queen Supayalat built her a darkroom on the N side of the
palace pavillion. Later King THIBAW made her a European maid-if-honour to the
court. She was styled Thamigyi, a term of great honour.
Captain Simon Edward ANTRAM was a favourite of King MINDON. When Matilda
married him, she was a spinster aged 17. Her true story is told in the novel
"THE LACQUER LADY" by F. Tennyson JESSE (1880-1958). The Captain BAGSHAW of the
book is obviously based on Edward ANTRAM Sr. He is described as a large, florid
Englishman with dark hair and light eyes, bald suffering from gout, Protestant,
in the Royal Navy Reserve, wealthy, much older than her, a bit gauche, but
kindly in his way. According to this book, after her husband died, she fell in
love with a rep from France, his jilting her leading to her disclosure of a
secret treaty between Burma & France, followed by invasion by England & the
removal of the Burman royal family. (The Captain attended the King MINDON's
funeral). The author met Mattie in 1929, who must have given her this d
escription and the idea for the book. He is called Captain Silas BAGSHAW in the
book. She is also mentioned in 'The Stone of Heaven' by Adrian LEVY and Cathy
Scott CLARK.
In 1887 Matilda P ANTRAM m Henry NOYCE d 24.5.1936 He served under Col. SLADEN
& became a magistrate & dealer in art & precious stones. They lived at
Silverton, Mandalay. She was also known as Mattie ANTRAM and Granny NOYCE. They
had 2 sons, Edgar c1887 & Herbert Edward d 1927 of Blackwater fever.
A witness named ANTRAM was called in the FOWLE vs. FOWLE divorce case,
Calcutta 1878. Support was given to Mr. FOWLE's friend Mahkin of Moulmein.
No photographic records are known to have survived, but his death certificate
states that he died of "fatty degeneration of the heart". This would confirm
that he was a large, ponderous sort of man - thin men do not die of this cause.
CALOGREEDY:
The historical facts distorted by Dagon Khin Khin Lay have been accepted
without further questioning by later novelists. A writer of Myanmar historical
fiction during the closing years of the 20th century, Seint (Pyin-nya-yei)
wrote a popular novel entitled Daing Khin Khin.� First published in 1976 it has
been reprinted 4 times, the 4th edition appearing in the year 2000. This novel
is an interweaving of parts of the plot and the mixing of some characters from
Dagon Khin Khin Lay's Sarsodaw with the plot and characters of the English
novelist F. Tennyson JESSE's (1888-1958) "The lacquer lady", where the true
story of Mattie Calogreedy, a European maid-of-honour at the court of King
THIBAW and Queen Supayalat, is narrated against the political background of
the rivalries and intrigues between two European colonial powers, Britain and
France, which led to the British annexation of Myanmar in 1886.
Four CALOGREEDYs found, one generation younger:
Florence CALOGREEDY b 20.3.1880, bpt. 23.9.1888 Rangoon.
Spiridan CALOGREEDY (Greek name) m sp-Mah Yew.
Lena Ida CALOGREEDY b 15.7.1892, bp 10.8.1892, d'r of John Lewis CALOGREEDY
and Ida. John may have been Matilda's brother.
U KHANTL, writing Mattie's obituary in a newspaper (1928), described Edward
as the Commodore of the Irrawaddy Flotilla Company: He was of a jovial
disposition and was noted for his huge physical bulk. He was the biggest man
afloat on the river.
?11516 7 6-Anne ANTRAM
11517 5-Frances Herbert Nelson ANTRIM b 4.4.1799 (girl) bp 15.8.1799
buried 18.11.1799 at 7 months.
11518 5-Susannah Nelson ANTRAM bp 7.2.1801 St. Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey GR
[?d 24.2.1876 London].
[Compare Susannah ANTRIM m 14.4.1822 sp-Andrew DUNGWALL]
m 31.8.1823 Bermondsey? sp-Joseph DEAN (bp 3.11.1799 Wallasey, Cheshire son of
Robinson and Ellen?)
m witnesses: W. DEAN (his brother William (husband of sister Ann 11514) and
Sarah ANTRAM (wife of 11511 George). No children found.
11519 5-Rachel Nelson ANTRAM b 25.4.1803 bp 2.8.1803 St. Mary Magdalen,
Bermondsey GR. Resident at 30 Colet Pl, Commercial Rd, East. d 2.11.1886 at
361 Victoria Park Rd., Hackney. Reported by her grandniece Sarah Eleanor DUNN
[11514 xx].
m 16.6.1832 St. Dunstan & All Saints, Stepney sp-John LLOYD 1806 Horsley Down,
Surrey
Rachel LLOYD reported Simon Edward ANTRAM II's death. Rachel's address:
30 Cohet Pl, Commercial Rd. East.
Marriage witness Mary Ann Brede ANTRAM wife of Simon Edward ANTRAM [11512].
1851 23 Gloucester St, Mile End Old Town, Middlesex:
John LLOYD Head M 45 1806 Horsley Down, Surrey House painter etc
Rachel LLOYD Wife M 42 1809 Bermondsey, Surrey
1861-71 with 11514 1 Anne DUNNE.
1152 4-George ANTRAM bp 12 MAY 1734 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire
d 29 OCT 1734 son of George & Rachel
1153 4-John ANTRAM 06 JUL 1735 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire
son of George & Rachel. Named in father's 1758 will.
(See below for possible wife & 2 chn.)
1154 4-Ann ANTRAM I 08 JAN 1737 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire
dr of George & Rachael - must have d by 1741 when 1156 b.
1155 4-George ANTRAM 27 APR 1740 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire
son of George & Rachael. Named in father's 1758 will.
m 30 NOV 1762 Portsmouth sp-Mary PROCTOR bc1741
11551 5-George ANTRAM 06 MAY 1764 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire
son of George & Mary
1156 4-Ann ANTRAM II 27 SEP 1741 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire
dr of George & Rachael
1157 4-Elizabeth ANTRAM 04 APR 1743 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire
dr of George & Rachael C062512 1727-1769
1158 4-Mary ANTRAM bp about 18 NOV 1744 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire
dr of George & Rachael
1159 4-Betty ANTRAM 24 NOV 1745 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire
dr of George & Rachael C062512 1727-1769
115(10) 4-Polly ANTRAM Named in father's 1758 will. Is she one of preceding
sibs?
m 19 MAR 1761 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hamps sp-Joshua LEWIS (IGI)
Is this Joshua LEWIS of Great Farringdon,Berks. whose dr Elizabeth m
Sir John PLAYTERS? Joshua contested the will of Sir John but withdrew.
(BT has Joshua's will of 3 November 1774 proved 6 September 1775 in London.)
For more on that Joshua LEWIS, see
(10)7 Jane DEACON b 1769 on the DEACON tree at 1.2 of
http://kitwithers.fortunecity.com/deacon/deacon.html 115(11) 4-William ANTRAM bp 25 JAN 1746 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire son of George & Rachael. Named in father's 1758 will. 115(12) 4-Sarah ANTRAM bp 12 FEB 1748 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire dr of George & Rachael d 3 MAY 1749 115(13) 4-Thomas ANTRAM bp 28 JAN 1749 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire son of George & Rachael. Named in father's 1758 will. 116 3-Ann ANTRAM bc1702 d 21.6.1752] Left �200 in 1743 will of aunt Ann ORR [12]. IGI batch A456569 gives her m as Anne ANTRIM to: m 19.12.1723 Portsmouth, Hampshire by licence sp-William BARTLETT bc1698: presumably he is the WB bp 26 OCT 1698 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth to Daniel BARTLETT & Elizabeth FARLEY (who m'd 23 DEC 1697 St Thomas A Becket, Portsmouth), & not the WB bp 29 AUG 1705 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth to Jacob BARTLETT & Elizabeth. (Both WBs are in IGI batch C062511 1654-1727.) BT: There is a William BARTLETT - Brazier and Ironmonger of 55 High Street in 1830 Pigot's Street Directory. Because of occupation of 63 below, this is likely to be a son or grandson. 1161 4-Elizabeth BARTLETT bp: 10 DEC 1724 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire to William & Ann C062511 1654-1727. (This batch has 41 BARTLETTs.) Left �100 in 1743 will of Ann ORR [12]. ?m 28 AUG 1746 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth sp-Thomas EYER M062512 1710-1872. ? bp 12.11.1711 St Thomas, Portsmouth to Thomas EYER & Elizabeth C062511 1624-1727. ?11611 5-Thomas AYERS m sp-Charlotte ?11611 1 6-Thomas Henry AYERS bp 26.3.1870 St Thomas, Portsmouth ex IGI C062514 1162 4-Daniel BARTLETT bp: 04 MAY 1728 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire to William & Ann C062512 1727-1769. (This batch has 30 BARTLETTs; eg Benjamin & Elizabeth BARTLET are having chn at this time.) Named as brazier & nephew in will of [115 George]. Left �100 in 1743 will of Ann ORR [12]. No m for him in Hants on IGI. ?11621 5-William BARTLETT Brazier and Ironmonger of 55 High Street - 1830 Pigot's Street Directory. 12 2-Ann ANTRAM d 21.6.1752 - ex DFBA transcription of her will 10.3.1743 ex BT is at *12 of 1. at wills.html
m sp-Thomas ORR 121 3-Anne ORR bp 2.5.1711 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire C062511 1654-IGI via BT. No other children given there. 2 1-Mary ANTRAM m 13/23 SEP 1710 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire sp-George SEYMOR - IGI Their chn to George & Mary are from IGI; the 1st 3 ex batch C062511 1654-1727 & the 4th ex batch C062512 1727-1769. 21 2-Rebeka SEYMOUR bp: 11 SEP 1711 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire 22 2-Antram SEYMORE male bp: 05 NOV 1712 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire Presumably he is Antram SEMOUR who m: 19 JUN 1740 Westminster, London sp-Ann LUKE IGI batch I031177. This batch also gives . Archibald SEAMORE m: 22 OCT 1741 Westminster sp-Elizabeth ROMAN . William SEAMORE m: 06 NOV 1741 Westminster sp-Frances HIND . Peter SEAMER m: 04 MAR 1736 Westminster sp-Susannah SMART . Mary LUKE m: 12 DEC 1736 Westminster sp-John SWEETAPPLE . Sarah LUCK or LUEK m: 15 FEB 1738 Westminster sp-Edwd. PORTER. 221 3-James SEYMOUR bp: 25 JAN 1744 Saint George In The East, Stepney, London to Antrum SEYMOUR & Ann C055781 1729-1779. 23 2-William SEYMORE bp: 14 APR 1714 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire There a number of WSs married in Portsea from 1801 to 1851. They look too late to be him. 24 2-Ann SEYMORE bp: 23 APR 1727 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire "to my cousin ANNE SEYMOR the sum of �50 also to be paid on reaching the age of 21" - 1743 will of 12. ??3 1-Francis ANTRAM of Southwick, yeoman 1677, rented Red Barn Farm, in Fareham ex http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp [For more ANTRAM of Southwick see 2. below.] m sp-Eleanor - her m1; 31 2-Elizabeth ANTRAM 32 2-Sarah ANTRAM
2. Other ANTRAM families of Hampshire *1650-98 ex http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp Summary of families (see also ??3 at 1.): 0 0-John ANTRAM m Mary 1 1-John ANTRAM all 3 alive 1650 2? 1-William 3? 1-Alice ANTRAM - 0-3 alive 1660 ............................... 0 0-Eleanor ANTRAM of Millvill in Titchfield, widow - held a tenement called Blakes in North Fareham made 26 February 1672 m2 1677 Fareham sp-James STARES junior of Titchfield, yeoman son of JS senior d by 1691 1 1-Eleanor m1? James BOWER of Titchfield, yeoman m2? Isaac BETTS of Portsmouth, ship wright 0 0-Eleanor ANTRAM of Portsmouth alive 1698 m3 WHITE d by 1698 . 15.10.1650 Site of manor of Berry - Lease and counterpart lease for 3 lives from Richard NORTON to John ANTRAM of Southwick, yeoman - ref. 5M50/1826, 1827 of a barn now standing on the site of the manor of Berry in Southwick, with gardens, etc., and a croft (2a.) on west side of the barn, Berry Pond croft (�a.) on the south side of Mill Pond, Berry fields being 2 closes (35a.) on the north of the barn, a little meadow on the east side of Berry fields, a meadow on the west side of Berry Watermill, a croft (3a.) on the west side of the road from Stoney Bridge to Hippley, and Farme mead (3a.) on the south side of the house formerly of William FARLEY - all premises being at one time in the occupation of Edward LONGE. For lives of John ANTRAM, Mary his wife, and John their son. Rent of �7 yearly. . 26.9.1660 SOUTHWICK Lee Heath - Counterpart lease for 3 lives from Richard NORTON to Margaret SPEERING of William, Alice ANTRAM, and John ANTRAM, son of John ANTRAM the elder, yeoman, of 2 acres of land adjoining Ly Heath. For lives of lessees. Rent of 12d. yearly. - ref. 5M50/1825 . 30 September 1670 White Hart Inn - Lease and counterpart lease for 3 lives from Richard NORTON to Francis ANTRAM of Southwick, yeoman, of a messuage, barn, orchard and garden formerly in tenure of John HERLOCK. For lives of Francis ANTRAM, and Elizabeth and Sarah his daughters. Fine of �60; rent of 13s. 4d. - ref. 5M50/1829, 1830: .1677 FAREHAM Deeds and copy deeds relating to a messuage and 80 acres called Beamonds or Beamounts, and later Red Barn Farm, in Fareham, purchased by Richard NORTON from Brown Langrish. - Marriage settlement on James STARES junior of Titchfield, yeoman, and Eleanor ANTRAM of Millvill in Titchfield, widow, being the counterpart of a feoffment to them by James STARES senior of Titchfield, yeoman, of a messuage and 80 acres called Beamount's in Fareham. - ref. 5M50/1267, 1268: .7 March 1691 - Assignment from Eleanor STARES of Titchfield, widow, to James BOWER of Titchfield, yeoman, of the lease from NORTON to Francis ANTRAM, her former husband, dated 30 September 1670 (1829), and another lease from Sir William GARDINER of Roche Court to ANTRAM of a tenement called Blakes in North Fareham made 26 February 1672. - ref. 5M50/1831 . 7 December 1698 - Assignment from Eleanor WHITE of Portsmouth, widow, formerly relict and administrator of Francis ANTRAM, Isaac BETTS of Portsmouth, ship wright, and Eleanor his wife (the daughter of Eleanor WHITE), relict and executrix of James BOWER of Titchfield, yeoman, to Henry FISHER of Southwick, gent., of lease dated 30 September 1670 (see 1829) assigned by Eleanor, then Eleanor STARES, to James BOWER in trust to preserve her interest in the lease upon her marriage with WHITE. Consideration of �96. - ref. 5M50/1832: .......................................................................... *1594-1671 Andover, Hants 0 0-Thomas ANTRAM C058072 1588 - 1685 1 1-Ellies ANTRAM bp: DEC 1594 Andover, Hampshire 2 1-Marye ANTREM bp: 19 MAR 1595 Andover, Hampshire 0 0-Wm ANTRUM C058072 1588 - 1685 1 1-Amie ANTRUM bp: 06 APR 1670 Andover, Hampshire 2 1-Sarah ANTRUM bp: 22 FEB 1671 Andover, Hampshire *1674-1852 OTHER ANTRAM FAMILIES - presumably related: 0 0-Simon ANTHRAM 1 1-Elizabeth ANTHRAM bp 10 DEC 1674 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 2 1-George ANTHRAM bp 05 JUN 1677 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 0 0-Elizabeth ANTRUM bc1670 Of, Gosport, Hampshire m: 23 APR 1693/91 St Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire sp-Stephen FULFORD widower 0 0-Elizabeth ANTRUM m 19 SEP 1695 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hamps sp-Robert STARES 0 0-Edward ANTRUM/ANTRAM m Elizabeth 1 1-Elizabeth ANTRUM bp 23 JUL 1696 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 2 1-Richard ANTRAM bp 22 JAN 1698 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 3 1-Mary ANTRUM bp 31 AUG 1701 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 0 0-Simon ANTRAM bc1663 Portsmouth m by licence 5.7.1688 sp-Elizabeth WHITE 1 1-John ANTHRUM bp: 29 DEC 1689 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire son of Simon & Elizabeth C062511 1654 - 1727 2 1-Simon ANTRIM bp: 08 DEC 1691 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire son of Simon & Elizabeth 0 0-John ANTRAM bc1677 of Portsmouth m 9.2.1702 Portsmouth sp-Sarah PETTISON 1 1-John ANTRAM bp 17 FEB 1703 Saint Marys, Portsea,Hampshire C062611 1674-1773 0 0-George ANTRAM m Ann 1 1-Eliz ANTRUM bp 18 APR 1703 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire dr of George & Ann 2 1-Ann ANTRAM bp 29 JUL 1705 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire dr of George 2 1-Martha ANTRAM bp 6.10.1709 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire dr of George 0 0-Johannah ANTRAM bc1690 of Portsmouth m 24.6.1711 Portsmouth sp-Joseph SILVER 0 0-William ANTRIM bc1707 of Portsmouth m 28 MAY 1732 Portsmouth sp-Mary SOWTON bc1711 of Portsmouth 0 0-Richard ANTRAM m Mary 1 1-John ANTRAM bp 13 JUL 1734 High Street-Presbyterian Or Unitarian, Portsmouth 2 1-Mary ANTRAM bp c28 JUL 1736 High Street-Presbyterian Or Unitarian, Portsmouth 0 0-Mary ANTRAM bc1716 of Portsmouth m 07 MAY 1737 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire sp-Jacob MINER/HINER 0 0-Mary ANTRAM bc1723 of Portsmouth m 16.7.1744 Portsmouth sp-George TREW bc1719 0 0-John ANTRAM 1 1-Elizabeth ANTRAM bp 15 OCT 1749 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 0 0-Mary ANTRAM m 19 SEP 1754 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire sp-Richard WHITE 0 0-John ANTRAM [He could be 52 above.] m Mary 1 1-Richd. ANTRAM 17 APR 1762 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire 2 1-John Allweek ANTRAM b 14 SEP 1778 bp 04 MAR 1781 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hamps 0 0-Richard ANTRAM m 18 DEC 1762 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire sp-Sophia SMITH 0 0-Mary ANTRIM m 11 OCT 1818 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire sp-John FREDERICK 0 0-Mary ANTRAM m 14 JUN 1819 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire sp-James MARSH 0 0-Elizabeth ANTRAM m 17 MAR 1836 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hamps sp-John MACDONALD 0 0-Sarah ANTRAM m 27 JUN 1836 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire sp-John BARTON ........................................................................ *1691 Simon ANTAM burgess of Portsmouth. 1710 Symon ANTAM burgess of Portsmouth. ........................................................................... *1700 Alverstoke, Gosport, Farham,Hants ex 2331 7111 13.10.06 HL & ex 2374 353 Bob ANTRAM bantram"att"xtra.co.nz 13.10.2006 using a tree prepared by 2374 312 Michael ANTRAM; & IGI. Info from Bob includes a tree prepared by Bob's 1st cuz 2374312 Michael ANTRAM. 0 0-Elias ANTRAM c1700 m sp-Mary SMITHER 1 1-Elias Smither ANTRAM bp 1.11.1722 Alverstoke, Hampshire J073571 1559-1749 m 29.12.1755 Holy Trinity Church Gosport sp-Mary STARGES/STARGESON M073564 1754-1875 11 2-Elizabeth ANTRUM bp: 09 FEB 1757 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire dr of Elias Smithers ANTRUM & Elizabeth sic C073562 2 1-Thomas ANTHRAM bp: 23 MAY 1725 Alverstoke, Hampshire J073571 1559-1749 m 29.12.1757 Alverstoke, Gosport sp-Mary SPEAR 21 2-Molly ANTRAM bp: 11 FEB 1763 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire C073562 22 2-Thomas ANTRAM bp 02.12.1767 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire C073562 23 2-William ANTRAM bp 16.12.1769 Holy Trinity, Gosport (Wm ANTRIM C073562) d 19.3.1814 bur Chapel Yard Gosport m 2.3.1789 St Marys, Southampton sp-Mary MATHEWS - 8 children 231 3-Joseph Thomas ANTRIM bp: 08 OCT 1790 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire 232 3-Thomas James ANTRAM bp 30.3.1792 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire C073562 1779-1812 m 12.8.1826 Alverstoke sp-Mary LOCKYER 2321 4-William Henry ANTRAM bp 22.8.1838 Alverstoke d 18.8.1847 Church Yard Gosport 2322 4-Henry George ANTRAM bp 8?.8.1838 Alverstoke d19.5.1839 Church Yard Gosport 2323 4-Mary Anne ANTRAM bp 1.9.1838 Alverstoke 233 3-John Clarke/Clark ANTRAM bp 25.12.1793 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire John Clerk ANTRIM son of Wm & Mary C073562 1779-1812; M073564 1754-1875 m 16 APR 1816 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire sp-Charlotte MILLS nee PAFFORD 2331 4-William North ANTRAM m sp-Mary Ann BUCKMAN NB Compare their chn with those of 23(12). 23311 5-Mary Louise ANTRAM 23312 5-Emma ANTRAM 23313 5-Henrietta ANTRAM 23314 5-William ANTRAM b1844 According to the Forbes Historical Society William also landed in Victoria -HL. m 1870 Ballarat, Vic., Oz sp-Bridget Teresa DONOGHUE 23314 1 6-Ellen Louisa ANTRAM 1873 23314 2 6-Teresa Bridget ANTRAM 1874 23314 3 6-William ANTRAM 1876 23315 5-Clara ANTRAM 23316 5-Henry ANTRAM 23317 5-George ANTRAM of Forbes, N.S.W. Originally the ANTRAMs landed in Victoria. They stayed their for some years. One of the male ANTRAMs was Post Master or Postman in Ballarat Vic. -HL m sp-Margaret HOPE (nee PAUL) 10 chn Grgrparents of Helen HL. 23318 5-Alfred ANTRAM 234 3-William ANTRAM bp 30.11.1796 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire C073562 1779-1812 ?m sp-Charlotte 1796 Portsmouth, Hampshire 1851 1 & 2 Claremont Place, Brighton, Sussex: William ANTRAM Head M 55 1796 Gosport, Hants Plumber & painter 234 Charlotte ANTRAM Wife M 55 1796 Portsmouth, Hampshire Beer retailer William ANTRAM Son U 28 1823 Brighton, Sussex Painter 2342 2341 4-George ANTRAM 1823 Brighton, Sussex m sp-Susan 1828 Steyning, Sussex 1861 110 Sussex St, Brighton, Sussex: George ANTRAM Head M 38 1823 Brighton, Sussex Spirit &beer retailer,pub 2341 Susan ANTRAM Wife M 33 1828 Steyning, Sussex Anne ANTRAM Daur 10 1851 Brighton, Sussex Scholar 23411 George ANTRAM Son 6 1855 Brighton, Sussex 23412 Caroline ANTRAM Daur 4 1857 Brighton, Sussex 23413 Clara ANTRAM Daur 3 1858 Brighton, Sussex 23414 Emma ANTRAM Daur 2 1859 Brighton, Sussex 23415 Harry ANTRAM Son 8 mo 1860 Brighton, Sussex 23416 William ANTRAM Visitor M 64 1797 Gosport, Hants Plumber journeyman 234 Charlotte ANTRAM Visitor M 72 1791 Portsmouth, Hants 23411 5-Anne ANTRAM 1851 Brighton, Sussex 1861 with parents. 23411 5-George ANTRAM 1855 Brighton, Sussex 1861 with parents. 23411 5-Caroline ANTRAM 1857 Brighton, Sussex 1861 with parents. 23414 5-Clara ANTRAM 1858 Brighton, Sussex 1861 with parents. 23415 5-Emma ANTRAM 1859 Brighton, Sussex 1861 with parents. 23416 5-Harry ANTRAM .7.1860 Brighton, Sussex 1861 with parents. Compare 1891 268 Shuland Rd, Paddington, London: William J ANTRAM Head M 32 1859 Brighton, Sussex Linotype operator, print Kate ANTRAM Wife M 29 1862 Paddington, London William H ANTRAM Son 8 1883 Homerton, London Scholar Kate ANTRAM Daur 5 1886 Paddington, London Scholar Charles ANTRAM Son 5 1886 Paddington, London Reginald ANTRAM Son 3 mo 1890 Paddington, London Harry EATES Lodger S 27 1864 Paddington, London Omnibus conductor, groom 2342 4-William ANTRAM 1823 Brighton, Sussex 1851 with parents. 235 3-Mary Elizabeth ANTRAM bp 28.1.1799 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire C073562 1779-1812 236 3-James Elias ANTRAM bp 18.3.1801 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire C073562 1779-1812 m sp-Mary 1794 Gosport, Hants 1851 Henry St, Alverstoke, Hampshire: James ANTRAM Head M 50 1791 Gosport, Hants Shipwright 236 Mary ANTRAM Wife M 47 1794 Gosport, Hants James ANTRAM Son U 22 1819 Foxton?, Hants Shipwright 2361 Mary A ANTRAM Daur 12 1929 Gosport, Hants Scholar 2362 John ANTRAM Son 7 1834 Stoke Road, Hants Scholar 2363 1861 7 High St, Alverstoke, Hampshire: James ANTRAM Head M 60 1791 Gosport, Hants Timber concreter HM dockyard 236 Mary ANTRAM Wife M 57 1794 Gosport, Hants George ANTRAM Son U 17 1834 Gosport, Hants Sailmakers apprentice 2364 1871 7 High St, Alverstoke, Hampshire: James Elias ANTRAM Head M 70 1791 Gosport, Hants Retired converter from HM dockyard Mary ANTRAM Wife M 67 1804 Gosport, Hants 2361 4-James ANTRAM 1819 Foxton?, Hants 1851 with parents. He looks like 1 of *1829 Alverstoke, Hampshire below, but b 1829 Gosport. 2362 4-Mary A ANTRAM 1929 Gosport, Hants 1851 with parents. 2363 4-John ANTRAM 1834 Stoke Road, Hants 1851 with parents. 2364 4-George ANTRAM 1834 Gosport, Hants 1861 with parents. 237 3-Francis ANTRAM bp 21.2.1803 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire C073562 1779-1812 d24.3.1856 bur Brighton m 23.9.1826 sp-Anne EDWARDS b 1808 (She m2 16.3.1858? St Nicholas, Brighton to John Richard PENDRELL.) 1851 54 Upper Bedford St, Brighthelmstone, Sussex: Francis ANTRAM Head M 47 1804 Gosport, Hants Printer & glazier 237 Ann ANTRAM Wife M 43 1808 Deal, Kent Eliza ANTRAM Daur U 22 1829 Brighton, Sussex Dressmaker 2372 Francis ANTRAM Son U 20 1831 Brighton, Sussex Housepainter 2373 Henry ANTRAM Son U 17 1834 Brighton, Sussex Housepainter 2374 Louisa M ANTRAM Daur 15 1836 Brighton, Sussex Scholar 2375 Sarah A ANTRAM Daur 12 1839 Brighton, Sussex Scholar 2376 Mary J ANTRAM Daur 10 1841 Brighton, Sussex Scholar 2377 William ANTRAM Son 5 1846 Brighton, Sussex Scholar 2378 2371 4-Mary Ann ANTRAM bp 28.3.1827 St Nicholas, Brighton 2372 4-Eliza ANTRAM bp 8.10.1828 St Nicholas, Brighton 1851 with parents. 2373 4-Francis ANTRAM 1831 Brighton, Sussex 1851 with parents. 2374 4-Henry ANTRAM 1834 Brighton, Sussex 1851 with parents. 2375 4-Louisa M ANTRAM 1836 Brighton, Sussex 1851 with parents. 2376 4-Sarah A ANTRAM 1839 Brighton, Sussex 1851 with parents. 2377 4-Mary J ANTRAM 1841 Brighton, Sussex 1851 with parents. 2378 4-William ANTRAM 1846 Brighton, Sussex 1851 with parents. 2374 4-Henry ANTRAM bp 1834 d 1.10.1872 bur Brighton m 1834 sp-Susanna GOLDS dr of Thomas of Blackbrook Farmhouse 23741 5-Harry ANTRAM bp 7.9.1862 St Nicholas, Brighton 23742 5-Albert Saunders ANTRAM bp 23.3.1865 d .6.1917 m sp-Mary LINCOLN b30.3.1867 d .8?.1948 7 chn 23742 1 6-Margaret ANTRAM 1892-1913 23742 2 6-John ANTRAM b 5.6.1893 d .5.1939 m sp-Ethel SMITH 23742 21 7-Joyce ANTRAM 23742 3 6-Frank ANTRAM b 13.12.1895 d 30.11.1874 m sp-Esther RAWSON 1900-1973 23742 31 7-Patricia Anne ANTRAM b 1924 m sp-George SMITH #Issue withheld pending permission 23742 32 7-Francis John ANTRAM 1929-1979 m sp-Jean STEDMAN # 4 chn - names withheld pending permission 23742 33 7-Peter Brian ANTRAM b 1936 m sp-Maureen BOAT # 2 chn - names withheld pending permission 23742 34 7-Evelyn May ANTRAM b 1938 23742 4 6-Albert William ANTRAM b 23.10.1898 d 10.12.1974 m sp-? 23742 41 7-Albert ANTRAM 23742 42 7-Robert ANTRAM 23742 43 7-Eva ANTRAM 23742 44 7-John ANTRAM b 1934 m 8.12.1956 sp-Ann LUCEY b 10.9.1937 # 2 chn -names withheld pending permission 23742 5 6-Ellen M ANTRAM b 20.8.1909 m Sep Q 1935 Brighton sp-Sidney J V TUCKNOTT 1911-1975 23742 51 7-Sylvia TUCKNOTT 23742 52 7-Brian TUCKNOTT 23742 53 7-Sidney TUCKNOTT 23742 6 6-Nora Louise ANTRAM b 7.1.1914 d .9.1950 23742 7 6-Harry ANTRAM d at 6 months 23743 5-Frederick Francis ANTRAM b 28.4.1867 d 30.7.1914 bur Brighton m 15.5.1890 St Nicholas, Brighton sp-Edith SMITH b 24.5.1869 23743 1 6-Edward Alfred ANTRAM b 4.4.1893 bp 23.5.1893 St Nicholas, Brighton d 17.10.1935 bur Haywards Heath m 8.7.1918 sp-Ada May PORTER b 24.12.1892 d 14.12.1990 bur Haywards Heath 23743 11 7-Peter Derek ANTRAM b 29.6.1920 m 10.9.1945 sp-Simone BOULLEN 4 chn - names withheld pending permission 23743 12 7-Michael Edward ANTRAM b 9.7.1923 Brighton UK. #MAJOR SOURCE for Bob. m 25.9.1950 St James RC Petts Wood sp-Anne Elizabeth STANDISH 4 chn - names withheld pending permission 23743 13 7-Muriel Therese ANTRAM b 1.12.1927 d 14.9.1930 bur Haywards Heath 23743 2 6-Mabel Edith ANTRAM b 17.3.1891 bp 31.5.1891 St Nicholas, Brighton Single 23743 3 6-Alice Frances ANTRAM b1896 d 1.4.19xx m 2.6.1924 St Martins Brighton sp-"Billy" Frank LAWSON 23743 31 7-Gordon LAWSON 23743 32 7-Jean LAWSON 23743 33 7-Betty LAWSON 23743 34 7-Valerie LAWSON 23743 4 6-Albert Victor ANTRAM b1898 d28.1.1965 m sp-Margaret Rankine FORSYTH no issue 23743 5 6-Frederick Martin ANTRAM b 9.12.1906 d 27.2.1981 NZ He emigrated to NZ as a farm labourer 1926 aged 18. m sp-Frances Muriel HARRIS b 7.8.1909 d 27.7.1987 NZ 23743 51 7-John Frederick ANTRAM b 30.5.1935 d 26.5.1958 TT race, Isle of Man bur Brighton 23743 52 7-Joan Edith ANTRAM b 12.9.1938 m sp-Bruce Ewan MCWANNELL b 18.8.1927 d 3.1.1986 3 children 23743 53 7-Robert Martin ANTRAM b 12.9.1940 #Bob is the chief informant for this tree bantram"att"xtra.co.nz 13.10.2006. m sp-Lynia Scott May b 18.5.1939 # 3 chn. 23743 54 7-Kenneth Michael ANTRAM b 17.12.1942 m1 sp-Pamela LOCKHART SCOTT, m2 sp-Sally REDFERN 23743 55 7-Kathleen Muriel ANTRAM b 27.7.1943 m sp-Trevor ONEILL 3 Children - names withheld pending permission 23744 5-Susannah ANTRAM b 8.11.1868 St Nicholas, Brighton m sp-Alfred BOWES 2375 4-Louise Mary ANTRAM bp 14.2.1836 St Nicholas, Brighton 2376 4-Sarah Ann ANTRAM bp 1.5.1838 m 11.8.1861? St Nicholas, Brighton sp-George WOOD 2377 4-Mary ANTRAM bp 1841 2378 4-William ANTRAM bp 2.11.1845 238 3-Eliza ANTRAM bp: 12 DEC 1804 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire C073562 1779-1812 239 3-Henry ANTRAM b14.7.1807 bp 12.8.1807 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire C073562 1779-1812 d 17.11.1815 bur Chapel Yard Gosport 23(10) 3-Sarah ANTRAM bp: 13 SEP 1809 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire m 27.6.1836 parish church Portsea, Hants sp-John BARTON 1881 Dwelling 38 Lower South St, Alverstoke, Hampshire: John BARTON Head M 79 1802 Gosport, Hampshire Waterman (On Sea) Sarah BARTON Wife M 72 1809 Gosport, Hampshire Sarah ANTRIM Niece U 37 1844 Gosport, Hampshire Sempstress Who's child? William ANTRIM Nephew U 14 1867 Gosport, Hampshire Scholar Is he 23(12)3?? Joseph ANTRIM Nephew U 4 1877 Gosport, Hampshire Scholar Who's child? 23(11) 3-Elias Smither ANTRAM b17.10.1812 bp: 01 NOV 1812 Holy Trinity,Gosport, Hampshire C073562 1779-1812 d 22.10.1816 23(11) 3-Elizabeth ANTRAM bp 24/28.8.1814 Holy Trinity,Gosport, Hampshire m 17.3.1836 parish church Portsea, Hants sp-John MACDONALD C073574 1834-1875: 23(11)1 4-John William MACDONALD bp: 04 SEP 1836 Alverstoke, Hants 23(11)2 4-John William MACDONALD bp: 13 AUG 1837 Alverstoke, Hampshire Not found 1881. 23(12) 3-William ANTRAM bp 1815 m sp-Mary Ann - 6 children 23(12)1 4-Henrietta ANTRAM bp 29.11.1840 23(12)2 4-Charlotte ANTRAM bp 11.12.1842 23(12)3 4-William John ANTRAM bp 12.7.1846 23(12)4 4-Clara ANTRAM bp 30.4.1848 23(12)5 4-David ANTRAM bp 28.1.1858? 23(12)6 4-George ANTRAM bp 23.3.18xx? I can't read Michael/Bob's tree. 24 2-John ANTRAM bp 30.11.1770 Holy Trinity,Gosport,Hampshire C073561 1696-1778 25 2-Betty ANTRAM bp 28.2.1773 Holy Trinity,Gosport,Hampshire C073561 1696-1778 3 1-John ANTRAM bp: 27 AUG 1727 Alverstoke, Hants J073571 1559-1749 d by 1732 4 1-William ANTRAM bp: 01 JUN 1729 Alverstoke, Hampshire J073571 1559-1749 5 1-John ANTRAM bp 26.12.1732 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire 6 1-Ann ANTRUM bp: 05 DEC 1734 Holy Trinity,Gosport,Hampshire C073561 1696-1778 NOTE This covers all ANTRAM at C073562 1779-1812. ............................................................................ . J073571 1559-1749 also gives 0 0-Symon ANTRAM 1 Edward ANTRAM bp: 08 OCT 1620 Alverstoke, Hampshire 2 John ANTRAM bp: 05 NOV 1623 Alverstoke, Hampshire C073561 1696-1778 also gives 0 0-Elisabeth ANTRUM 1 Jane ANTRUM bp: 22 APR 1717 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire 0 0-John m Ann 1 John ANTRAM bp: 03 SEP 1749 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire . M073564 1754-1875 also gives 0 Polly ANTRAM [cf 115(10) of 3.1] m 11 JUL 1796 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire sp-George COLLINS . M073561 1696-1754 gives John ANTRAM m 13 OCT 1706 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire sp-Joanna SMITH Elisabeth ANTRUM m 04 JAN 1719 Holy Trinity, Gosport,Hampshire sp-James DOELEN Frances ANTRUM m 10 JUN 1722 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire sp-William FLEET Rebecca ANTRUM m 17 SEP 1719 Holy Trinity,Gosport,Hampshire sp-Benjamin BARROW Betty ANTRUM m 14 MAY 1730 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire sp-Richard HALL Richard ANTRUM m 18 DEC 1730 Holy Trinity, Gosport, Hampshire sp-Mary FREELAND ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *1783 Gosport ex jennylucy133"att"hotmail.com 2006: 0 John MORTIMER of Gosport will 1783 m 1724/25 sp- Elizabeth SMITHERS His will: "my late wifes kinsman Thomas ANTRAM". He purchased land in Windmill Field (in Anns Hill Rd) from Mary ANTRAM and her sister Sarah WILLIAMS. His dau Betty m Richard WHITE in Fareham in 1745/46. Cf Richard WHITE above. Cf Richard WHITE m 20/1/1745/6 Fareham sp-Elizabeth MORTIMER 3 chn ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *1825 ex http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dutillieul/index.html bankrupt John ANTRAM, of the Town and County of the Town of Southampton, Butcher, Dealer and Chapman, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *1829 Alverstoke, Hampshire 0 0-James ANTRAM Could he be 236 James Elias ANTRAM 1801 Gosport of *1700 Alverstoke,Gosport? m sp-Mary 1 1-James Charles William ANTRAM 1829 Gosport, Hants bp 08 FEB 1829 Alverstoke, Hampshire C073573 m 21 MAR 1852 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire reg Mar Q sp-Mary Jane COOPER 1881 11 Union Street, Portsea, Hampshire: Jas. CW ANTRAM Head M 52 1829 Gosport, Hants Shipwright 1 Mary Jane ANTRAM Wife M 53 1828 Gosport, Hants Charles F ANTRAM Son U 20 1861 Portsmouth, Hants Insurance agent 11 Geo. Wm. ANTRAM Son U 18 1863 Portsmouth, Hants Wheelwright apprentice 12 Harry ANTRAM Son 15 1866 Portsmouth, Hants Baker's apprentice 13 Mary Jane ANTRAM Daur 10 1871 Portsmouth, Hants Scholar 14 1891 3 Samuel Rd, Portsea, Hampshire: Mary Jane ANTRAM Head W 63 1828 Portsmouth, Hants Laundress Charles F ANTRAM Son S 30 1861 Portsmouth, Hants Millband maker, leath[er] 11 Mary J ANTRAM Dau S 20 1871 Portsmouth, Hants Box maker, paper b 14 1901 20 Shearer Rd, Portsmouth, Hampshire: Mary J ANTRAM Head W 73 1828 Portsmouth, Hants May J ANTRAM Daur S 29 1872 Portsmouth, Hants Fancy box maker, paper 14 11 2-Charles F ANTRAM 1861 Portsmouth, Hants 1881 with parents. 1891 with mother. 12 2-George William ANTRAM 1863 Portsmouth, Hants 1881 with parents. 13 2-Harry ANTRAM 1866 Portsmouth, Hants 1881 with parents. 14 2-Mary Jane ANTRAM 1871 Portsmouth, Hants 1881 with parents. 1891-1901 with mother. 2 1-William Henry ANTRAM bp 2.7.1832 Alverstoke, Hampshire C073573 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *1836 Gosport, Hants 1861 Vessels, Royal Navy, Maldonado, South East Coast of America: John ANTRAM 24 7 mo 1836 Gosport, Hants Able seaman 1871 WARRIOR, Vessels, Hamoaze, Devon: John ANTRAM Gunner RMK ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *1847-1951 Hants Marriages ex freebmd 2011 - yet to ID: Elizabeth ANTRAM m Dec Q 1847 Alverstoke John William ANTRAM m Jun Q 1863 Alverstoke John George ANTRAM m Sep Q 1867 Alverstoke George William ANTRAM m Dec Q 1885 Portsea Mary Jane ANTRAM m Sep Q 1903 Portsmouth Frederick H ANTRAMm Mar Q 1915 sp-Daisy TIMPSON Louiesa H ANTRAM m Sep Q 1925 Portsmouth sp-William H HANSON Charles ANTRAM m Dec Q 1928 Portsmouth sp-Harriett L OUGHTON Annie E ANTRAM m Sep Q 1934 Portsmouth sp-William J GRIFFITHS Lilian ANTRAM m Jun Q 1945 Portsmouth sp-Frederick J RICHARDSON Frederick W ANTRAM m Sep Q 1946 Portsmouth sp-Hilda N HEARD Harry C ANTRAM m Mar Q 1951 Bournemouth sp-Ethel S GILLES ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *1881 Hants Dwelling 11 Union Street, Portsea, Hampshire: Jas. C.W. ANTRAM Head M 52 1829 Gosport, Hampshire Shipwright Mary Jane ANTRAM Wife M 53 Gosport, Hampshire Charles F. ANTRAM Son U 20 Portsmouth, Hampshire Insurance Agent Geo. Wm. ANTRAM Son U 18 Portsmouth, Hampshire Wheelwright Apprentice Harry ANTRAM Son 15 Portsmouth, Hampshire Barbers Apprentice Mary Jane ANTRAM Daur 10 Portsmouth, Hampshire Scholar Dwelling 8 Egbert St, London, Middlesex: Sophia D. ANTRIM Head M 48 1833 Portsea, Hampshire Scholastic Agency Anna M. YOUNG Mother W 81 Blandford, Dorset Independent Fanny L. PULFORD Sister W 36 Portsea, Hampshire Governess Lilian A.F.S. YOUNG Niece 14 Reading, Berkshire Scholar Dwelling Clarence Square, Alverstoke, Hampshire: John Geo. ANTRAM Head M 37 1844 Gosport, Hampshire Sail Maker H M Dockyard Mary ANTRAM Wife M 36 Isle of Wight, Hampshire John George ANTRAM Son 11 Gosport, Hampshire Scholar Charles ANTRAM Son 1 Gosport, Hampshire Ann Rose COLEMAN Lodger U 65 Gosport, Hampshire Annuitant Dwelling 38 Lower South St, Alverstoke, Hampshire: John BARTON Head M 79 Gosport, Hampshire Waterman (On Sea) Sarah BARTON Wife M 72 Gosport, Hampshire Sarah ANTRIM Niece U 37 1844 Gosport, Hampshire Sempstress William ANTRIM Nephew U 14 Gosport, Hampshire Scholar Joseph ANTRIM Nephew U 4 Gosport, Hampshire Scholar Dwelling 23 Richard St, Alverstoke, Hampshire: M. A. ANTRAM Head W 37 1844 Portsmouth, Hampshirey Ladys Nurse Henry J. ANTRAM Son 10 Ireland Scholar ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *1761,1859-1907 www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.gov.uk advanced search,ANTRAM,Portsmouth . Registers of Seamen's Services: (none of these are on the IGI bps) ANTRAM, Charles Francis b 26 June 1859 Portsmouth ADM 188 Official No: 101773 ANTRAM, George William b 16 January 1863 Landport Portsmouth Official No:122099 ANTRAM, Alfred George b Portsmouth 06 July 1885 ADM 188/393 Official No: 223207 ANTRAM, Frederick Harry b Portsmouth 1892-1907 ADM 188/411 Official No: 232071 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- *1784-92 www.historicaldirectories.org Hampshire ANTRAM gave .Hampshire Directory, 1784 (fuzzy off gave 2, on gave 5 but only these 2 found) p145 Southampton John ANTRAM butcher French St; Wm ANTRAM butcher High St .Universal British Directory, 1792-98 at Droxford, Hants: Simon ANTRAM farmer - presumed to be 1151 above. http://www.county-surnames.co.uk/list.php?county=Hampshire
4. AYERS/EYER clues re sp of 1161 of 1. - none on Portsmouth list 7.6.06: .1813 ex Pam PERRYMAN pam"att"bobwhitman.com 2.12.06 0 0-William AYERS (b.c1785) m by 1841 Elizabeth (maybe BREAKS/BRAKES??), 1 William AYERS, b. 1813, d. 1870, Portsea m 16.7.1835 Gosport,Holy Trinity sp-Elizabeth Baker Quantick PINKARD c1814-1867 11 Mary Ann AYERS, b. 1836, Portsea m 1857 Alfred William HODGES 12 William Henry AYERS, b. 1838, Portsea 13 John AYERS, b. 1839/40, Portsea m 1862 Louisa A. HAWKINS 9 children, moved to Cambridge 14 Alfred AYERS, b. 1843, Portsea, d. 1858? 15 Elizabeth Fanny AYERS, b. 1846, Portsea 16 Louisa Jane AYERS, b. 1849, Portsea 17 Robert Breaks AYERS, b. 1851, Portsea 18 Ellen Edith AYERS, b. 1853, Portsea m 1881 John Richard BISHOPP 8 children, moved to Tunbridge Wells, Kent 19 Harry AYERS, b. 1855, Portsea - went to Oz? 1(10) Frank AYERS, b. 1857, Portsea m 1889 Ellen L. SADLER 2 John Breaks AYERS b1815 Portsea alive 1901 m Ann b1822 Freston, Suffolk d1868 no children 3 Elizabeth AYERS, b. 1818, Portsea m 1842 Charles ELLIS 31 Elizabeth (b.1844), 32 Charles (b. 1848) ELLIS family lived in Greenwich, Charels is ?convict keeper? 4? Henry AYERS, b.1821, Portsea 5? Frances AYERS, b.1823, Portsea
5. BARTLETT of Portsmouth, Hampshire re sp of 116 of 1. above * BARTLETT clues for St Thomas, Portsmouth ex IGI re 116 of 1. above 0 0-John BARTLET m Mary . Robert BARTLET bp: 21 APR 1663 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . John BARTLET bp: About 18 FEB 1665 Saint Thomas . Thomas BARTLET bp: 15 SEP 1667 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Elizabeth BARTLETT bp: 29 JUN 1669 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Jacob BARTLET m Margaret . Elizabeth BARTLET bp: 17 SEP 1677 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Margaret BARTLET bp: 29 MAR 1679 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Mary BARTLET bp: 21 NOV 1680 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . George BARTLET bp: 28 FEB 1681 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Sarah BARTLET bp: 02 JAN 1684 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Jacob BARTLETT bp: 17 APR 1687 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth to Jacob & Margarett . Jacob BARTLETT bp: 12 JUL 1689 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth to Jacob & Margarett 0 0-Jacob BARTLET m Mary . Anne BARTLETT bp: 04 MAR 1682 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-James BARTLET m Hannah . James BARTLET bp: 10 DEC 1686 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Joseph BARTLETT bp: 26 DEC 1688 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Anne BARTLETT bp: 12 OCT 1691 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Beniamin BARTLETT bp: 21 SEP 1690 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Christopher BARTLETT bp: 26 MAR 1693 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Jacob BARTLET m: 08 JUN 1691 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Elizabeth STUCKY 0 0-Jacob BARTLETT m Elizabeth . Jacob BARTLETT bp: 09 APR 1694 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Benjamin BARTLET bp: 28 MAR 1701 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . William BARTLETT bp: 29 AUG 1705 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Daniel BARTLETT m Elizabeth . William BARTLETT bp: 26 OCT 1698 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Eliz BARTLET bp: 16 NOV 1700 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . David BARTLET bp: 09 APR 1704 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Martha BARTLET m: 24 AUG 1699 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Richard MORRIT 0 0-George BARTLETT m Mary . Mary BARTLETT bp: 10 SEP 1714 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Elizabeth BARTLETT bp: 26 DEC 1715 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Anne BARTLETT bp: 15 OCT 1718 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . George BARTLETT bp: 17 FEB 1719 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Benjamin BARTLETT bp: 28 MAY 1721 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Richard BARTLETT bp: 25 JAN 1722 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-James BARTLETT m Eleanor . James BARTLETT bp: 26 SEP 1714 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Walter BARTLETT bp: 04 NOV 1716 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Elizabeth BARTLETT bp: 21 NOV 1718 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Eleanor BARTLETT bp: 16 DEC 1720 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Rachel BARTLETT bp: 28 MAY 1721 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Thomas BARTLETT bp: 24 NOV 1721 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . John BARTLET bp: About 06 DEC 1723 Saint Thomas 0 0-John BARTLET m Mary . John BARTLETT bp: About 08 OCT 1721 Saint Thomas 0 0-Benjamin BARTLETT m Elizabeth . Elizabeth BARTLETT bp: 21 APR 1724 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Mary BARTLETT bp: 21 SEP 1725 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Ann BARTLETT bp: 20 AUG 1727 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Sarah BARTLETT bp: 29 DEC 1728 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth d 20 OCT 1731 . Joseph BARTLETT bp: 29 NOV 1730 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Benjamin BARTLETT bp: 20 FEB 1731 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Joseph BARTLETT bp: 16 FEB 1734 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth d 19 DEC 1738 . John BARTLETT bp: About 12 JUN 1737 Saint Thomas . Sarah BARTLETT bp: 24 JUN 1739 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth to B & Elisabeth . Benjamin BARTLETT bp: 21 JUN 1741 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth d 31 MAR 1743 . Joseph BARTLETT bp: 07 SEP 1746 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-William BARTLETT [6 of my family at 3.1 above] m Ann . Elizabeth BARTLETT bp: 10 DEC 1724 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Daniel BARTLETT bp: 04 MAY 1728 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Richard BARTLETT m Susanna . Richard BARTLETT bp: 10 FEB 1726 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Susanna BURTLETT bp: 14 SEP 1728 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Jacob BARTLETT bp: 04 APR 1731 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Mary BARTLETT bp: 09 JUL 1732 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Ann BARTLETT bp: 27 JUN 1734 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Mary BARTLETT bp: 05 MAR 1737 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Joseph BARTLETT bp: 07 JAN 1740 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-John BARTLETT m Ann . Nanny BARTLETT bp 23 OCT 1732 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth d 28 OCT 1732 0 0-Susanna BARTLETT m 13 JUN 1744 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Edmund ADAMS 0 0-Elizabeth BARTLETT m 28 AUG 1746 Saint Thomas,Portsmouth George James FORD 0 0-James BARTLETT m Mary . John BARTLETT bp: About 23 NOV 1746 Saint Thomas 0 0-James BARTLET m Margarett . Joseph BARTLET 22 JUL 1747 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-James BARTLET m Mary Ann . Mary Ann BARTLETT bp: 20 FEB 1750 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Susanna BARTLETT bp: 10 JUL 1752 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth to James & Mary . James Newbry BARTLET bp: 09 MAY 1755 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Elizabeth BARTLET bp: 16 NOV 1757 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth to James & Mary . Wm. BARTLET bp: 06 JUL 1763 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth to James & Mary 0 0-Ann BARTLETT m: 15 APR 1750 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth John CHURCHER 0 0-Henry BARTLETT m Elizabeth . Henry BARTLETT bp: 25 SEP 1757 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Richard BARTLET m Ann . George BARTLET bp: 09 JAN 1758 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth d 22 FEB 1758 . Ann BARTLETT bp: 31 AUG 1759 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth d 12 MAY 1761 . Elizth. BARTLETT bp: 03 JAN 1762 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-John BARTLETT m Ann . Betsey BARTLETT bp: 24 AUG 1760 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Robert BARTLETT m Ruth . Jenny BARTLETT bp: 22 NOV 1769 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-William BARTLETT m Ann . William BARTLETT bp: 15 OCT 1771 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-William BARTLETT m Leah . Wm. BARTLETT b 29 AUG 1774 bp: 07 OCT 1774 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Mariah BARTLETT bp: 24 APR 1776 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Daniel BARTLETT bp: 22 SEP 1778 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Ellenor BARTLETT b 26 MAY 1780 bp: 22 JUN 1780 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Joseph BARTLETT m Ann . Benjn. BARTLETT b 23 APR 1776 bp: 16 MAR 1777 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Ann Christmas BARTLETT bp: 25 DEC 1780 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Elizabeth BARTLETT bp: 13 OCT 1783 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth aged 1 . Hariott BARTLETT bp: 10 AUG 1785 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth d 05 DEC 1786 . Mary BARTLETT bp: 10 APR 1792 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth aged 1 . Susannah BARTLETT bp: 15 DEC 1794 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Eleanor BARTLETT m: 06 FEB 1781 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth William HOGDEN 0 0-William BARTLETT m Elizabeth (Presumably more than one couple with these chn) . Mary Ann BARTLETT bp: 06 FEB 1782 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . John BARTLETT bp: About 03 FEB 1808 Saint Thomas . John Wm. BARTLETT bp: About 28 DEC 1808 Saint Thomas . Edwd. BARTLETT b 16 MAY 1810 bp: 22 JUN 1810 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Ruth BARTLETT bp: 05 JUN 1812 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Henry BARTLETT bp: 24 JUL 1816 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . George Wm. BARTLETT bp: 09 JAN 1818 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Frederick BARTLETT b 16 JAN 1820 bp: 11 FEB 1820 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . William Hugh BARTLETT bp: 04 SEP 1822 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Elizabeth Martha BARTLETT bp: 10 DEC 1824 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Lawrence Wright BARTLETT bp: 20 OCT 1826 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Thomas BARTLETT m Hannah . Nancy BARTLETT bp: 28 JUN 1782 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Hooker BARTTELOT m: 18 JAN 1783 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Amelia Sophia ORTON 0 0-Mary BARTLET m: 05 FEB 1784 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth George ATKINSON 0 0-James BARTLET m: 07 JUL 1794 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Mary ABNET . Mary Ann BARTLETT bp: 20 JUL 1794 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-James BARTLETT m Mary . James BARTLETT bp: 07 JAN 1795 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Wm. Ralph BARTLETT bp: 09 NOV 1802 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Stephen BARTLETT m Mary . Charlotte BARTLETT bp: 11 SEP 1796 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-William BARTLETT m Mary 1 Wm. Henry BARTLETT bp 10 MAR 1799 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth . Wm. BARTLETT bp: 14 JUN 1811 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-David BARTLETT m Charlotte . Jane BARTLETT bp: 08 MAY 1799 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Sarah BARTLETT m: 15 JUL 1799 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Edmond SHILS COLTART's entry for m register lists her as sojourner with marksman. 0 0-Elizabeth BARTLETT m: 11 JAN 1803 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth John BEE 0 0-John BARTLETT 40th Regt of Foot m 19.5.1803 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Mary MASON minor by licence. This entry is in COLTART but NOT in IGI! 0 0-Tryphene BARTLETT m: 26 JUN 1803 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Thomas LYON 0 0-Henry BARTLETT m: 10 JUN 1807 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Martha SEAGO 0 0-Elizabeth BARTLETT m: 25 DEC 1807 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Thomas MADON COLTART's entry for m register lists her as minor & him as Thomas STADON of HMS LA FLECHE, m by licence. 0 0-William BARTELOT m Hannah . Hannah BARTELOT bp: 20 MAR 1808 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-William BARTLETT m: 02 APR 1808 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Elizabeth KIRK COLTART: by licence. 0 0-Sarah BARTLETT m: 05 AUG 1811 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth John BURK 0 0-Ann BARTLETT m: 23 OCT 1811 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Richard PERKINS 0 0-Elizabeth BARTTELOT m: 08 NOV 1811 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Thomas COLE 0 0-Elizabeth BARTLETT m: 01 DEC 1811 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Henry TAYLOR 0 0-Henry Richard BARTLETT m 05 FEB 1812 St Thomas, Portsmouth Catherine MALONE 0 0-Mary BARTLETT m: 10 FEB 1812 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Thomas ADEY 0 0-William BARTLETT m Mary . George BARTLETT bp: 03 SEP 1813 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Sarah BARTLETT m: 06 OCT 1815 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth John BIGGS 0 0-John BARTLETT m: 26 MAR 1816 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Elizabeth MITCHELL 0 0-Elizabeth BARTLETT m 29 NOV 1816 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Arthur Blake WEST 0 0-Mary Ann BARTLETT m: 30 MAR 1818 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Robert TAYLOR 0 0-Susannah BARTLETT m: 18 APR 1825 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth John MINES 0 0-William BARTLETT m: 01 MAY 1827 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Mary Anne HOPE 0 0-Mary Ann BARTLETT m: 05 NOV 1827 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Samuel BARTON 0 0-Mary BARTLETT m: 21 MAY 1828 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Richard STAPLES 0 0-Catharine BARTLETT m: 16 JUN 1834 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Thomas STAGG 0 0-Jane BARTLETT m: 07 NOV 1835 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Henry ALLEN 0 0-Charles BARTTELOT m 15 FEB 1836 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Harriet Sarah PENNY 0 0-Ann BARTLETT m: 17 JAN 1839 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth John SILVER 0 0-Henry Lovell BARTLETT m Amelia . Amelia Catherine BARTLETT bp: 03 MAR 1839 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Thomas BARTLETT m: 21 JAN 1841 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Jane STACPOOLE 0 0-William BARTLETT m: 22 OCT 1842 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Matilda JONES 0 0-Harriet BARTLETT m: 24 SEP 1843 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth William RUTLEDGE 0 0-Charles BARTLETT m: 04 MAR 1844 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Elizabeth WOODS 0 0-James BARTLETT m: 11 MAY 1845 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Elizabeth WILLIAMS 0 0-Mary BARTLETT m: AUG 1846 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth George James FORD 0 0-Susannah BARTLETT m: 13 MAR 1848 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth William MAXTED 0 0-Walter Henry BARTLETT m Betsey . Albert Henry BARTLETT bp: 03 SEP 1848 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-Mary BARTLETT m: 27 AUG 1849 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth George James FORD 0 0-Caleb BARTLETT m Amelia . Mary BARTLETT b 05 NOV 1826 CHECK bp: 09 FEB 1851 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0- Maria BARTLETT m: 05 OCT 1851 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth John HOBBS 0 0-James BARTLETT m: 11 OCT 1851 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Augusta MORGAN 0 0-Mary BARTLETT m: 21 JUL 1856 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth James HART 0 0-Georgeina BARTLETT m 24 SEP 1861 St Thomas, Portsmouth Joseph Thomas SCARLETT 0 0-Rosina BARTLETT m: 20 JAN 1862 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Alexander CAMPBELL 0 0-Samuel James BARTLETT m 02 FEB 1862 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Ellen FRAMPTON 0 0-Hannah BARTLETT m: 04 OCT 1864 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth James STUBINGTON 0 0-William BARTLETT m 24 DEC 1866 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Elizabeth Mary Ann SOUTHBY 0 0-William BARTLETT m Elizabeth Mary Ann . William BARTLETT bp: 03 MAR 1867 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth 0 0-William Robert Stear BARTLETT m 05 AUG 1871 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth Sylvia Coombs KING 0 0-William BARTLETT m Rose . William Henry BARTLETT bp: 03 JUL 1870 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- * BARTLETT clues for Portsmouth ex Portsmouth list 7.6.06: .c1795 ex Michael TREASGOSP"att"aol.com 06 0 0-William BARTLETT m Jane SPRAKE in 1819. Shoemaker when he married. (There is another William who was a shoemaker m Hannah KERBY around then.) .1834 Voters List for Portsea BARTLETT, William, 108, High-street, Portsmouth and 1 Flint-street, Southsea jill.watson60"att"optusnet.com.au 2002 has B's in Portsea. .1834 St Mary's Portsea CHU3/1B/21 p 106 no 847 ex Knightroots"att"aol.com 03 0 0-Henry & Elizabeth MEACH Allens Field ? DY born 8 Sept 1834 1 Henry William Bartlett MEACH bp 13 OCT 1834 .1842 ex sandy"att"till2575.freeserve.co.uk 06 0 0-Mary Jemima BARTIETT b1842 Portsmouth d 1908 Portsmouth m Charles Edward SHERGOLD in 1860 and they had 7 chidren. .1845 ex Mike SAUNDERS 04 0 0-Wm BARTLETT Address - Lombard Street Occupation - Shoemaker 1 James BARTLETT Seaman m Elizabeth WILLIAMS 11th MAY 1845 .1862 linda.stevens"att"pipemedia.co.uk 04 Joshua BARTLETT bc1836 Hardington When m'd at 156 Wingfield St, Portsea m 1862 Portsea Mary Ann BAKER bc1841 Hardington .1878 ex Robert MCDOWELL rmcdowl"att"lks.net 2003 0 0-John BARTLETT bc1841 Bridport, Dorset m Martha SELWOOD Mar Qtr 1878 Portsea 1 Elizabeth .1881 D'Arcy & Lorna MARSHALL drlmm"att"powerup.com.au 2002 1881 Henry BARTLETT age 61 and his wife Ann nee PARK age 62 & chn .1881 ex Stephen HILLIER hillier"att"emerge.net.au 2003 0 0-John H. BARTLETT m Caroline E 1881 census at 3 Alpha Street, Portsea 1 John W. BARTLETT b 1880 Portsmouth .1880s ex Knightroots"att"aol.com 06 Harry BARTLETT b 1866/7 London m 1901 St Thomas' Portsmouth sp-Sophia CANAWAY b 1866/7 Portsea .1890 ex Pam PERRYMAN 0 Alfred BARTLETT in 1890, 3rd Q, in Portsea m Margaret Fannie A[yers?] HODGES (b. 1866, 1st Q, Portsea) cf 1901 Census - 81 Arundel Street, Portsmouth Hampshire: Alfred BARTLETT 1868 Portsmouth, Hampshire Head Baker Shopkeeper Maggie BARTLETT 1868 Portsmouth, Hampshire Wife Ronald BARTLETT 1892 Portsmouth, Hampshire Son Ernest BARTLETT 1898 Portsmouth, Hampshire Son
6. OLDING of Portsmouth, Hampshire (1664-1810) I am searching for the family of Rebekah OLDING m 17 JUN 1694 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hants sp-John ANTRAM, 11 of 1. above. IGI batches C062511-2 1654-1769 & M062511-2 1653-1872 give these OLDING families - presumably related: (C062513 1770-1812 has DEACON but not ANTRAM or OLDING.) 0 0-Stephen OLDING m Jone 1 Martha OLDING bp 19 JUN 1664 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire 0 0-Stephen OLDING m Elizabeth 1 Thomas OLDING bp 16 MAR 1668 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire [Cf # below] 0 0-Stephen OLDING m Mary 1 Steven OLDING bp 12 MAY 1684 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire 0 0-Thomas OLDING [Cf # above] m Rebeka 1 Rebeka OLDING bp 06 OCT 1697 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire 0 0-Rebekah OLDING m 14 OCT 1706 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire sp-Charles SCOTT No chn found 0 0-Ann OLDING m 14 FEB 1810 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire sp-John BABBAGE 1 Wm. BABBAGE bp 14 JUN 1811 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire 0 0-Peter OLDING m sp-Mary Jane CROSS 1 John OLDING b 14 MAY 1846 Kingston By Portsmouth, Hampshire .......................................................................... The IGI has 200+ OLDING bp entries for Hampshire. Those for Portsea are: 0 0-William OLDING 1 Sarah OLDING bp 27 JUL 1723 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 2 John OLDING bp 28 OCT 1725 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire C062611 1674-1773 0 0-Charles OLDING m sp-Elizabeth ex C063151 1789-1875 1 Charles OLDING bp 27 DEC 1792 Saint John, Portsea, Hampshire 2 James OLDING b 07 APR 1795 Saint John, Portsea, Hampshire 3 Joe OLDING bp 07 APR 1795 St John Chaple, Portsea, Hampshire 4 John OLDING bp 22 SEP 1796 Saint John, Portsea, Hampshire 5 Wm. OLDING bp 02 NOV 1800 Saint John, Portsea, Hampshire 6 Jane OLDING b 09 JAN 1803 bp 10 APR 1803 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 7 Sarah OLDING b 04 MAR 1805 bp 28 MAR 1805 Saint John, Portsea, Hampshire 8 Rachel OLDING b 23 DEC 1806 Meeting House Alley Baptist, Portsea, Hampshire to Charles & Eliza 0 0-James OLDING m sp-Jane 1 Jane Susanna OLDING b 18 DEC 1798 bp 15 JUL 1804 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hants 0 0-Peter OLDING m sp-Mary ex C062612 1774-1804 1 James OLDING b 08 SEP 1799 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 0 0-James OLDING m sp-Sarah ex C062612 1774-1804, C062613 1805-22 1 Charlotte OLDING bp 25 MAR 1801 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 2 Rachel OLDING bp 12 SEP 1802 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 3 Rebecca OLDING b 11 APR 1804 bp 15 JUL 1804 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 4 George OLDING b 04 JAN 1807 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire C062613 1805-22 5 Charles OLDING b 18 APR 1808 bp 31 JUL 1808 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 6 Charles OLDING c 11 JUL 1809 bp 10 NOV 1809 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 7 Ann OLDING b 16 JUN 1811 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 8 Harriet OLDING bp 24 SEP 1813 Portsea, Hampshire 0 0-William OLDING 1 William James OLDING b 30 AUG 1801 bp 17 OCT 1817 Saint Marys, Portsea 0 0-Samuel OLDING 1 Rebecca OLDING b 11 APR 1804 bp 14 MAR 1735 St Johns Chapel, Portsea, Hants 0 0-William OLDING m sp-Ann 1 Richard Henry OLDING bp 16 JUN 1805 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 0 0-Charles OLDING m sp-Phebe/Pheobe C091351 1723-1837 1 John Charles OLDING b 23.9.1815 Meeting House Alley Baptist, Portsea, Hants 2 William Francis OLDING b 22 JUN 1817 Meeting House Alley Baptist, Portsea bp 19 AUG 1819 Portsea, Hampshire 3 Henry OLDING b 13 OCT 1819 Meeting House Alley Baptist, Portsea, Hampshire 4 Thomas OLDING b 09 APR 1822 Meeting House Alley Baptist, Portsea, Hampshire 5 George Hill OLDING b 01 AUG 1824 Portsea, Hampshire 6 Mary Ann OLDING b 18 MAR 1828 Meeting House Alley Baptist, Portsea, Hants. bp 01 APR 1828 Portsea, Hampshire 0 0-William OLDING m sp-Mary Ann ex C062614 1823-37, C063151 1789-1875 1 Eliza JANE b 29 AUG 1819 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 2 George William OLDING bp 15 AUG 1824 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 3 William OLDING bp 18 MAR 1860 Saint John, Portsea, Hampshire 0 0-William OLDING m sp-Charlotte C062614 1823-37 1 Clara OLDING bp 23 NOV 1827 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 2 William OLDING b 25 APR 1830 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 3 William Edward OLDING bp 12 AUG 1832 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 4 Edmund OLDING bp 23 NOV 1834 Portsea, Hampshire 5 Emily OLDING bp 26 JUN 1836 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 6 Edmund OLDING b 23 JUN 1839 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 0 0-Henry OLDING m sp-Caroline GIBBS 1 John OLDING bp 15 JUN 1834 Southampton, Hampshire 2 Thomas Alfred OLDING bp 29 NOV 1835 Southampton, Hampshire d 21 JUN 1836 3 Mary Ann OLDING bp 23 JUL 1837 Southampton, Hampshire 4 Louisa OLDING bp 26 JAN 1840 Southampton, Hampshire, 5 Emma OLDING b 1842 Southampton, Hampshire m 12 DEC 1872 Southampton, Hampshire sp-Charles DUELL 6 Harriet OLDING m 25 DEC 1845 Southampton, Hampshire sp-Richard LACEY 7 Elizabeth OLDING b 1851 Southampton, Hampshire 8 Jane OLDING b 1853 Winchester, Hampshire 9 Harriet OLDING b 1856 Portsea, Hampshire ex IGI batch 2260228 - this gives 61 OLDING mostly in Southampton. 0 0-Peter OLDING m sp-Jane Mary CROSS 1 Elizabeth OLDING b c1836 Mayfield, Hampshire 2 Ellen OLDING b c1842 Southwick, Hampshire 3 William OLDING b About 1843 Portsea, Hampshire 4 Euma OLDING b About 1848 Portsea, Hampshire 5 Jane OLDING b About 1849 Portsea, Hampshire 6 Robert OLDING b About 1850 Portsea, Hampshire 7 Elizabeth OLDING b About 1851 Portsea, Hampshire 8 James Robert b About 1852 Portsea, Hampshire 9 Rosina OLDING b About 1852 Portsea, Hampshire (10) Lucy OLDING b About 1855 Portsea, Hampshire (11) Alfred OLDING b About 1861 Portsea, Hampshire 0 0-George OLDING m sp-Sarah 1 William Vigor OLDING bp 01 JAN 1843 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 0 0-Charles OLDING m sp-Sarah ex C062615 1838-1858 1 Charles OLDING b 03 OCT 1847 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire d 04 JUN 1850 2 Sarah OLDING bp 20 MAY 1849 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire 0 0-Richard OLDING m sp-Jane 1 Enoch OLDING bp 05 APR 1860 Saint John, Portsea, Hampshire C063151 1789-1875 .......................................................................... ancestry has an OLDING message board at http://boards.ancestry.com.au/surnames.olding/mb.ashx This gave ex Janice: Jane OLDING m 8.6.1833 St. Marys, Portsea, Hants. sp-Thomas LIGHTFOOT He may be Janice's ancestor who immigrated to the US and then to Canada. But Dave appears to say that their Jane is Jane ARDREY/ARDRAY.
7. SEYMORE of Portsmouth re 2 of 1. above: listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=ENG-HAM-PORTSMOUTH-GOSPORT gives 26.6.2006: Portsmouth had a Seymore/Seymour St, a back street across Kingston Road from St Stephen's Church more or less parallel with the main road, running from Buckland St to Wellington Place, no longer there. - rogerlovell"att"mac.com 04 Rita NEWTON newton.r"att"tesco.net 2005: 1855 Will of g3grfr James HINES mentions a tenant: "... now in the occupation of Mr SEYMOUR as tenant thereof and situate at Hardway near Elson aforseaid" "There was a SEYMOUR family living in Elson with strong ties to St Thomas Elson Church. I have photos of one Mr SEYMOUR taken I guess around 1914 with my great grandfather, John Taylor HINES, of the Parish Hall committee. And another of probably his son taken about 1956..." Chapel in Grosvener St built in 1847 had trustee Job SEYMOUR of Southsea Hon Hugh SEYMOUR was MP for Portsmouth 1899 Admiral Sir M. Culme SEYMOUR, Commander-in-Chief at Portsmouth ex Paul BENYON pbenyon"att"pbenyon.plus.com 2004.
8. ABBREVIATIONS b born, bp baptised, chn children, dr daughter, Hamps Hants Hampshire, m married, m1 married 1stly, m2 married 2ndly, sp spouse, St Saint or Street