HALL OF Bristol, Denton & Stockport (c1814-1916) and New Zealand (1879-present)


 http://kitwithers.fortunecity.com/hall/hall.html 
 Please let me know if any links don't work!

Version 1.2.2011, c64 A4 pages, 0.3 Mgb 


 WHAT'S NEW? 
1.2.2011 
 
 
 
 
 
5.7.2009 I have included photos from Henry & Laura HALL's albums - now held by 
 Geoff HALL.
8.10.2007 One couple asked that the names of their immediate family be removed.
 I am always happy to comply with such a request.
19.2.2007 - I stumbled on a site for Meryl MCLEOD, wife of Reg HALL 36 below:
 http://www.jarrell.ca/2788.htm run by Don JARRELL donjarrl"att"jarrell.ca 
16.11.2006 - another wine award to 31131 Tracy HASLAM & family. 
21.9.2006 - the passing of Betty REID 332. 
26.10.2005 Gerry LAWSON has sent me our HALLs in the 1851 census.
13.5.2005 An email from Geoff, a son of 18 Leslie HALL (1898-Australia) !!!
 After generations the Oz branch is again in contact with the NZ branch!
11.3.2005: See the m of 22 Gertrude LONGWORTH in 1906 to Fred KINDER.
21.1.2005: I found 0 George HALL, father of 1 Henry HALL, in 1881 census.
This has given me the family of his wife Elizabeth nee COOKE at Bawtry,
South Yorkshire: - see 9.1 below, & 9.3 for a photo of its High St c1880.
  I've renumbered Henry as 3 (their 3rd child),
and moved Harry (now 35) in front of Reg (now 36).
 ........................................................................

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PRIVACY ISSUES The primary purpose of these family trees is to preserve the history of the families and to enable contact between members. So I include living members and a method of contact if I can. If for any reason you would like your contact details excluded please let me know.

CONTENTS page (size A4) 1. Numbering systems used 2 2. HALL of BRISTOL, DENTON, Stockport & NZ 3 3. Acknowledgements & Sources 33 4. Surnames and their first appearance 33 5. Place names and their appearance 34 6. HALL clues and other HALL searchers 38 7. The ASKEW tree - an excerpt 38 8. The BRAMBLEY tree - an excerpt 39 9. COOKE 9.1 COOKE of Bawtry,Yorks re wife of 0 at 2. 39 9.2 COOKE clues 41 9.3 Clues for Bawtry,West Riding,South Yorks 44 9.4 COOKE clues elsewhere 10. LONGWORTH clues 45 11. The TRAYES tree - an excerpt 46 13. Family members on email 45 14. Some links for Yorkshire and England including more on Upperthorpe and Walkely: 14.1 genealogy 45, 14.2 Sheffield 46 14.3 Lancashire 46, 14.4 maps 47 14.5 Bristol & Gloucester 48 15. NZ passenger Lists 48 16. Abbreviations 48 17. KINDER clues 48

1. THE NUMBERING SYSTEMS USED (i) The ID number at the start of the line indicates his order of descent from the initial couple "0 0--George HALL" and "sp-Betsy COOKE". (The "sp-" is for spouse.) For example their 3rd child is given ID number "3": 3 1--Henry HALL (1851) who married sp-Laura Elizabeth RATHBONE (1857). The 7th child of "3" Henry and spouse Laura is given ID "37": 37 2--Vera Elizabeth Rathbone HALL (1897-1971) and so on. (ii) The generation number precedes the name. For example the "1--" in 37 1--Vera Elizabeth Rathbone HALL indicates she is in the 3rd generation, counting the initial couple "0--George HALL" and "sp-Betsy COOKE" as the 1st generation. So to see who her siblings are one can either scan for adjacent "1--" or scan for 11, 12, .... (In this case the siblings stop at 18. ) (iii) To make this descendancy chart look like a conventional family tree, you need to put all the pages of the tree "2" together as one vertical sheet, then turn it on its side with the left margin at the top. Now draw horizontal lines between all siblings. The top line will join all the 2--. The next line will join all the 2--but be broken so as not to cover any 2--. So it is in 2 parts: the first is for 31 (one child so the horizontal line is just a point), & the second joins 41, 42, ...,48. The 3rd line joins all the 4--and breaks whenever a 2--or 3--occurs. The 4th line joins all the 5--and breaks whenever a 2--or 3--or 4--occurs. And so on. (iv) The children 2-- of Henry and Laura Hall have all passed away now. The grandchildren of Henry & Laura Hall, marked 4--are cousins (or siblings) to each other. Similarly if you are marked 5--(that is 5th generation from the initial couple) then you are a second cousin (or closer) to the other 5--. If you are marked 6--then you are a third cousin (or closer) to the other 6--. We now have 7 generations.


2. HALL OF BRISTOL (GLOUCESTER), DENTON (LANCASHIRE), STOCKPORT & NZ (c1814-present)

     SUMMARY
                                               page (size A4)
0 George HALL b 1819 Bristol bur 1888 Christchurch, Denton 
m Betsy COOKE bp 1823 Bawtry, Yorkshire bur 1891 Denton 3
3 Henry HALL (1851 Denton,Lancs.-1931 Auckland)         6
m 1877 Laura RATHBONE (1857 Sheffield-1918 NZ)           6
31 Laura HALL (1878/9-1953) m James W ASKEW            11
32 Sylvia HALL (1880-1952) m James FARRAR              13
33 Florence HALL (1882-1972) m1 George BRAMBLEY 20
   m2 "Dooley" Frederick WILSON                 22
34 Eveline HALL (1883-1940) m Ernest TRAYES     22
35 Harry Frederick HALL (1888-1917 France)      28
36 Reginald HALL (1896-1996) m Meryl MCLEOD     30
37 Vera HALL (1897-1970) m Rex RUSSELL          34
38 Leslie HALL (1898-Australia) m Mauva         36

4 Sarah Ann HALL c1856 Stockport m John LONGWORTH 37
5 William HALL b 1860 Stockport, Cheshire         39
6 Jack HALL (c1866 Denton,Lancs) m Louie/Louise   39

    DETAILS

0  0--George HALL b Bristol, Gloucestershire in 1814 (1871 census),
 or in 1820 (1851-61 censuses) or 1821 (1881 census). "In affectionate memory
of George HALL departed 4.10.1888 (aged) 69 & interred at Christchurch, Denton.
Manchester Rd, Denton 6.10.1888" - bereavement card with George & Betsy's photo
on p1 of photo album of Henry HALL [3] held by Geoff HALL [381]. This puts his
b year as 1819.
 
(The bps for Bristol do not appear to be on the IGI for this period.
The Bristol and Avon Family History Society have fiche of burials for Bristol.)

1847 daughter Betsy [1] b at Warwick -see 1851 census under wife.
1850 daughter Emma [2] b at Heaviley, Stockport, Cheshire.
1851 at 4 Wellington Road South, Stockport - see wife; son Henry [1] b.
1853 son Henry [3] b at 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport
1856 daughter Sarah Ann [4] b at 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport
1861 at 171 York St,Gorton with wife & chn Betsy 1, Henry 3, Sarah Ann 4, Wm 5.
c1866 son John James [5] b at Denton,Lancs
1871 census: hatter 57 so b1814 in Denton, Lancs. See his wife for full entry.

1877 marriage certificate of his son Henry [3] lists George as a hatter of
 Upperthorpe. (Henry's death certificate gives George as a barrister!!) 
 There is an Upperthorpe near Scunthorpe in Lincolnshire. But this one is
  almost surely
"UPPER-THORPE, hamlet in the parish of Sheffield and the township of Nether-Hallam; 1 mile from Sheffield." (West Riding) - according to http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/yrksdict/ "A Topographical Dictionary of Yorkshire" 1822, by Thomas Langdale,
 (also available at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mwi/e-riding.html)
It is now a district of Sheffield near Walkeley. (One says it is 
very near to a town named Harthill, SEE of Sheffield; another says it is W of
Sheffield.) See "14. Links".

1881 census at 25 Dane St, Denton, Lancashire -see his wife for full entry.

So the family moved from Warwick to Stockport to Gorton, Manchester to Denton 
to Sheffield then George & Elizabeth & son John moved back to Denton by 1881.
 There are 13 Dentons listed by www.streetmap.co.uk Our one is NOT that in N 
Yorkshire NW of Ilkley (of Ilkley Moor Ba Tat fame - Do you know the song?)
- see 6.2.1 re censuses, but is that in Greater Manchester (formerly Cheshire, 
then Lancashire).
  1891-1901?

m by 1847 sp-Elizabeth "Betsy" COOKE b1822/23/24 Sheffield - ex 1861/51/71
 OR b1823 Bawtry,Yorks - ex 1881. 
 bp 12 APR 1823 Bawtry, Yorkshire; d 3.12.1891, interred at Christchurch, 
Denton.  #She is 3 in the COOKE family at 9.1 below. 
  Cf IGI: 
George HALL m c1843 at St Philip & St Jacob,Bristol sp-Elizabeth bc1822.
  (Cf freebmd: 
George Frederick HALL m Jun Q 1841 Newington, Surrey 4 352 sp-Eliza COOKE;
probably another couple.)
  1851 4 Wellington Road South, Stockport, Cheshire ex Gerry LAWSON: [ID]
George HALL    Head M 31 1820 Bristol, Gloucestershire   Hatter    [0 above]
Elizabeth HALL Wife M 27 1824 Sheffield, Yorkshire       Hat trimmer
Betsey HALL    dau  U  4 1847 Warwick, Warwickshire                [1 below]
Emma HALL   dau  U 11 mo 1850 Stockport, Cheshire                  [2 below]
 NB Stockport Heritage, Central & Info Libraries are at Wellington Road South, 
Stockport, Cheshire SK1 3RS - Tel:0161 474 4530,4540,& 4524
 localheritagelibrary"att"stockport.gov.uk
 For a map see entries at http://www.192.com/directory.cfm/STOCKPORT/LIBRARY

 NB The Museum of Hatting is close to this address: Wellington Mill, 
Wellington Road South, Stockport SK3 0EU Tel: 0161 355 7770 Fax: 0161 480 8735 
www.hatworks.org.uk See there for map.Email linn.holmstrom"att"stockport.gov.uk 
"4 Wellington Road South has been replaced by Beckwith House, a redbrick,
multi-storey office block" - Keith DANSEY, Hat Works keith.dansey"att"stockport.gov.uk 2005
"Number 4 is no longer there, but may have stood in the area which is now 
occupied by the bus station."- Sam JACKSON Stockport CC sam.jackson"att"stockport.gov.uk 
"Wellington Road North becomes Wellington Road South on the bridge over the 
River Mersey.
 www.orbit-developments.co.uk/northwest/beckwith/description.asp
gives a picture of Beckwith House (N of the bridge) and, looking South, the bus
station and Wellington Mill where the museum is.
 Enter http://www.royalmail.com/portal/rm/home
 The first building on the even numbers 
side after the river is the Wellington Mill but, according to the Royal Mail, 
it does not have a number. Right next door to the mill is a small factory which
makes components for hearing aids. It rejoices in the unfortunate title of 
Universal Aids. Their postal address is 8-14 Wellington Road South. Next door  
we have the carpet shop, 16 Wellington Road South.
 The map of Stockport dated 1872 shows a large square block next to Wellington 
Mill labelled Daw Bank Mill,then Exchange Street, across Exchange Street is 
shown a long narrow block which could have been houses. My guess is number 4 
was one of these. Today, this site is occupied by the Post Sorting Office, 
which look like a 1950s building. ... Wellington Road South is carried over 
the river by means of a road bridge which is then continued, on the same level,
by a series of arches. The bus station is 
accessed under these arches. Any buildings which once stood on this level would
be either on streets called Daw Bank or Chestergate. On the upper level 
Wellington Road South continues on its arches until it reaches Wellington Mill,
an old cotton mill where our museum is now located. After that the numbering 
resumes at number 16 which is now a carpet shop."
- Keith DANSEY, Hat Works keith.dansey"att"stockport.gov.uk 2005.

  1861 171 York St, Gorton, eccl'l district St Thomas, [Manchester, M18]
 ex David WESTON:                                                     [ID]
George HALL    Head M 41 1820 Bristol, Gloucester     Silk hat maker  [0 above]
Elizabeth HALL Wife M 39 1822 Sheffield, Yorkshire    Hat trimmer
Betsy HALL     Dau  U 14 1847 Warwick?, Warwickshire? Cotton weaver   [1 below]
Henry HALL          U  8 1853 Stockport, Cheshire     Scholar         [3 below]
Sarahann HALL  Dau  U  4 1857 Stockport, Cheshire     Cotton weaver   [4 below]
William HALL  U 8 months 1860 Stockport, Cheshire                     [5 below]

 In 1909 Gorton became a District of Manchester to its SE: see
http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/districts/gorton.html
 
  1871 Manchester Rd, Denton, SE Lancashire, Reg. District Ashton-under-Lyne,
town of Denton, Part of Christchurch & St Lawrence's Ecclesiastical Districts,
Parish of Manchester:                                                 ID
George HALL           Head M 57 1814 Bristol, Gloucestershire  Hatter [0]
Elizabeth HALL        Wife M 48 1823 Sheffield, Yorkshire Hat trimmer 
Sarah A HALL          Daur U 15 1856 Stockport, Cheshire  Hat trimmer [4 below]
John James HALL       Son     5 1866 Denton, Lancashire               [6 below]
Elizabeth SCHOFIELD Lodger W 38 1833 Stockport, Cheshire  Hat trimmer   
Elizabeth Ann SCHOFIELD (Daur) Lodger 5 1866 DuRinfield, Cheshire
 (George & Elizabeth are named in Harry's WW1 diary.)
"Denton was one of the centres of the hatting trade. Felt hatting was 
quite specialised and depended on a good "soft" water supply, so small 
areas often became magnets for the hatting industry. As George was born 
in Bristol, I would suggest you have a look around the Bitton-Oldland 
Common area just to the west of Bristol as this was the chief hatting  
area for Bristol. Quite a number of Bitton hatters moved to Denton 
during the 19th Century, so it is possible he learned his trade there!
- David BAXENDELL  davidbax"att"paradise.net.nz 2002.

  1881 Dwelling  25 Dane St, Denton, Lancashire:
Name Relation Marital Status Age  Birthplace  	Occupation          [ID]
George HALL    Head M 60 1821 Bristol, Gloucester Felt Hat Finisher [0]
Elizabeth HALL Wife M 58 1823 Bawtry, Yorks       Felt Hat Trimmer 
John J. HALL   Son  U 16 1865 Denton, Lanc        Warehouse Boy     [6 below]
 (Multimap shows a number of Dane Sts near Manchester. The closest to Denton is
the 2nd at M11 off Ackroyd & Wetherby Sts off Ogden Lane S of Ashton Old Rd
S of Droylsden. The others are near Rochdale, Bolton & Oldham.)
  1891 not found.
  	

  ?1901 Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield ex David WESTON:
Elizabeth HALL 75 1826 Sheffield, Yorks
- see (I) under her son [6] John below for full details. 
NOT FOUND THERE OR ON ANCESTRY!
  <-- ??1901 92 Leeds Rd, Whitwood, Yorkshire:
Thomas Shaw 	Head       M 50 1851 Knottingley, Yorks    Glass founder
Ann Shaw 	Wife       M 48 1853 Knottingley, Yorks  
Hannah Shaw 	Dau        S 17 1884 Meu? Whitwood, Yorks 
Elizabeth Hall Grandmother W 79 1822 Knottingley, Yorkshire
-->    
The photo album of Henry [3] now held by Geoff HALL [381] begins with this photo of George & Betsy HALL aged c1888.
 
Attached is a condolence card for George
 and a condolence card
"Elizabeth relict of the late George HALL d 3.12.1891, interred at 
Christchurch, Denton. 116 Clifton Cresc, Peckham, London SE 8.12.1892" 
 
 We need to check who was living at this address. Was Elizabeth living there
alone?
   ..................................................

1  1--Betsy HALL b 1847 Warwick, Warwickshire.
  1851-61 with parents.  1861 aged 14 Cotton weaver.
 Vera [37] knew of her. 
  She is probably
Betsey HALL b reg Jun Q 1847 Warwick 16 9 -ex freebmd.
  Other possible Betsy HALLs b Warwicks at freebmd:
BH Mar 1844 Foleshill, Warwickshire;
BH Mar 1844 Solihull, Warwickshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire;
BH Jun 1845 Birmingham;
Betsy Selina HALL Dec 1853 Alcester - not ours (cf other censuses).
  Also Mar 1845	Elizabeth Mary	  	 Warwick	 16	[53]6[6];
1848 Elizabeth	  	 Warwick	 16	578.

  ??1871 Edgbaston, Warwickshire:
Elizabeth HALL Servant U 24 1847 Birmingham, Warwickshire
  ??1881 55 Digbeth, Birmingham, Warwickshire with Edward GIBBS GP, MRCS:
Betsey HALL Servant U 34 1847 B.Ham, Warwickshire General Serv Domestic
  However that EH is likely EH b1847 Birmingham with parents Samuel & El. in
1851 in London.  There are 2 other EHs b1846 Birmingham in 1871.
 
2  1--Emma HALL (b 3.4.1850 Heaviley, Stockport, Chester)
 freebmd: Births Jun 1850 HALL Emma  Stockport 19 353.
 
Here is her birth certificate: father - George HALL, hatter; mother - Elizabeth HALL formerly COOKE; informant George HALL father of Heaviley, Stockport; registered 6.5.1850.
 
  1851 with parents at Stockport.  1861 not with parents so may have died. 
  (1851 has another EH b1849 Stockport to Daniel & Mary. 
possibly related to Ross THOMAS stkilda9"att"tpg.com.au
  Freebmd has other EHs b Jun & Dec Q 1852, & Sep 1853 Stockport.)
  She could be one or more of these from freebmd: 
Marriages Jun 1875
HALL	 Emma	  	 Stockport	 8a	100	 
 Marriages Dec 1875
HALL Emma Stockport 8a	48 to CHAPPELL Alfred or CORBISHLEY William Ridgway
 had a father Andrew so not ours; etc
Deaths Sep 1872 HALL	 Emma	 22	 Stockport	 8a	37 unmarried
 - unlikely as registered by a Samuel HALL who was present at the death;
 parents not given. 
  Heavily is c 1 mile SSE of Stockport town centre, in the direction of Buxton.
It has a WW1 memorial at St George's & 3 pubs in Buxton Road. 

3  1--Henry HALL (b 4.3.1853 at 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport, Chester;
d 17.3.1931 at Alfriston Rd, Manurewa, Auckland) 
(The b date & place 29.5.1851 Denton, Lancs. was incorrect; perhaps this was
an older brother of the same name who died?) 
 
Here is his birth certificate: father - George HALL, hatter; mother - Elizabeth HALL formerly COOKE; informant X The mark of Elizabeth HALL mother of 6 Rowcroft Place, Stockport; registered 4.4.1853
 
17.11.05 ex Norman rowcroft"att"tesco.net: Many years ago there 
was a Rowcroft Smithy 1 mile south of Stockport town centre on what 
was then the turnpike road to London.  It is still a major road (the A6).
The smithy was situated where the road branches off to Bramhhall.
There were several ROWCROFT families in the Stockport area.  The smithy may 
have been associated with one of them and Rowcroft Place with the smithy. 
  Not found at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/

  1861 census with parents: U 8 1853 scholar b Stockport, Cheshire. 
  1871 census not found - not with his parents in Denton.
Postcard of Crown Point, Denton. On it HH has written Ashton Rd (L arrow), Stockport Rd (R arrow), Hyde Rd (up arrow) - from Henry & Laura's postcard album now held by Geoff HALL
 

 When Henry married Laura in 1877 his occupation was joiner, and he lived in
Walkely, Sheffield. Witness: Antoinette SPARKS.  The marriage was
registered in Sheffield 1877 (Sept qtr vol 9c p590).  (His wife's family was
at 108 Walkley St, Nether Hallam (Sheffield) in the 1881
census. Walkley St runs between Daniel Hill & Industry Street. -EP)
(See in the links under 14. below for more on Walkely and Upperthorpe.)
  1879 to New Zealand. Geoff HALL [381] has Henry's 1879 ship diary kept on his
trip from England to Auckland on the barque LEBU. Charmaine has typed most of 
it & will email it to me for posting on this site. Geoff also has old family 
albums, postcard photos of Denton, & a lodge certificate from the Royal Order 
of Foresters:
"This is to certify that Bro. Henry HALL is duly enrolled a Past Chief Ranger
of Court 6172 this 15.6.1887. Signed Bro. Arthur HOLMES Chief Ranger, Bro RN
HONEYCOMBE Subchief Ranger, Bro Wm WEBBER Secretary". Geoff also has Henry's
lodge sash & lodge medallion for Court 6172 (Auckland?). The case is inscribed Presented to Bro. H HALL Aug 18 1897 - T. JONES, Jeweller, Newton, Auckland. 
 
In 1901 they met fortnightly in the Foresters' Hall, Newton with accumulated 
funds of �8180.
Henry HALL's 1887 members certificate for the Foresters Lodge, Auckland from collection of Geoff HALL
 
Henry HALL's sash for the Foresters Lodge, Auckland from collection of Geoff HALL
 
Henry HALL's medal for the Foresters Lodge, Auckland from collection of Geoff HALL
 
  Geoff also has Henry's will: Will of Henry HALL 1.11.1930 ...
Henry HALL of Manurewa ... retired engineer.
2. I appoint my son Leslie George HALL, Julias Mclachlan HOGBEN of Auckland ..
solicitor, & Douglas D'Arcy VICKERMAN of Auckland, estate agent .. to be the
executors & trustees.
3. I give .. to my daughters Florence Henrietta WILSON, Laura Elizabeth ASKEW,
Sylvia Elizabeth FARRAR, Evelyn Maud TRAYES, & Vera Bessie RUSSELL 25P free of
duty.
4. I give .. my real & personal estate .. upon trust .. [for trustees] to 
invest .. & to pay the income .. to Leslie George HALL.
  Witnesses George & J QUAID, farmers, Manurewa.

 Geoff has St Philips Parish Notes for Feb & Jan 1913 "The church
Mam & I was married at" with a photo? of the church "as it is now with railings
round".
 Henry's photo album starts with a photo of his parents George & Betsy.
It includes photos of [4] eg "Sister Sarah an Hall 1853" [4], "H HALL & Sister 
Sarahan Hall 1855" [4] - on the back: Th. M WATERS photographer 380 Stockport
Rd, Manchester. The album includes a photo "The tank has just been to Sheffield
to collect war loans"
'H HALL when I first met man 1873' by Jas TULLEY, Sheffield - from Henry & Laura's album now held by Geoff HALL
 
 Les's? album has "View of Thomasa showing hospital: Mr H
HALL, 79 Park Rd, Auckland".
  Henry's effects held by Geoff include a dualling pistol c1800
made by Jan Andre KUCHENREUTER (presumed to be Johann Andreas KUCHENREUTER, 
Regensburg, Bavaria, 1716-95 - ex google), and a cutlas with alligator skin. 
Dualing pistol and alligatorskin? cutlas owned by Henry HALL - from collection of Geoff HALL
 
 Betty [332] says that Henry was brought to NZ as an engineer to instal heavy 
equipment at Auckland Hospital. June [361] says he lived at `RIVELIN', (named 
after their home in England) in Grafton Rd opposite the hospital. He built 
houses in Auckland. Retired to Remuera. Later moved to `Fern Nook', 79 Park 
Road. He owned Lots 12 & 13 on Park Rd & part of lot 8 backing on to Lot 13: 
frontage 90'5", boundary with lot 11 is 115'6", boundary with lot 14 is 
152'9" - ex hand drawn map "conveyed from Mr RENZINA to Mr H HALL; valuation
300 P" held by Geoff [381].
Survey map showing property of Henry HALL in Park Road, opposite Auckland Domain from collection of Geoff HALL
 
This photo taken 20.7.1966 shows 83, 79 & 73 Park Road. Courtesy of Ak Univ. Property Services via KT. 15kb
 
For more on Rivelin (photos) & Fern Nook, see the info following his wife Laura
below supplied by Kay TRAYES from the Takapuna Library and Archives in 2002.

 Death certificate: retired engineer died 17.3.1931 at Alfriston Rd, Manurewa
[just S of Regional Botanic Gardens] aged 79 of senile decay, atheroma of 
arteries, etc; son of George HALL barrister and - nee COOKE; buried 18.3.1931 
at Purewa Cemetery, Auckland  by JE DRAPER Anglican; b Denton, England; 
52 years in NZ; married at Denton, England at 26 to Laura Elizabeth RATHBONE; 
issue living: M aged 34,32; F aged 52 50 48 47 36; Thos G McIVOR undertaker.
(This confirms his b place but contradicts his m place & father's occupation.)
 (KT will check with council archives for St no. in Alfriston Rd.)
Henry HALL c1874 from collection of Geoff HALL
 
Henry HALL c1890 in masonic regalia from collection of Geoff HALL
 
Henry HALL c1890 from collection of Geoff HALL
 
Here is a photo of Henry and son Les (38 below) taken 4.3.1921. (32 kb) Bereavement notice ex [381]: The family of the late Mr Henry HALL wish to convery their sincere thanks & appreciation for your expressions of sympathy in their recent bereavement. - Park Road & Manurewa, March 1931. Here are some photos of the plinth above their grave there, courtesy of Kay TRAYES 3222. (118 kb)
 
On one side is written:
 "In loving memory of Laura Elizabeth dearly beloved wife of Henry HALL
who departed this life 5th November 1918 in her 61st year. At rest." On 
another:
 "In loving memory of Henry dearly beloved husband of Laura Elizabeth HALL
who departed this life 17th March 1931 in his 79th year. Re-united. A 3rd side:
 In loving memory of Lieutenant? H.F. HALL Auckland Infantry Battalion, killed 
in action at Messines France on 9th June 1917, aged 29 years."
Downhill from this grave is a FARRAR grave: see under 1222 for details.
 When his son Harry [35] enlisted, Henry was living at 2 Beaconsfield St.,
Devonport.
These photos of the house were taken by Kay in 2002.
 Handwritten ex 1215 via KT: "and Henry HALL died March 17th 1931 in his 79th
yr. Both interred at Purewa, Auckland."
 When Harry was killed on 9.6.1917, he was living at Dominion Rd, Devonport
according to the bereavement note sent out by Henry HALL. Kay notes that in 
1929 Dominion Rd became Allenby Ave. (after a WW1 general). (It turns left off
Memorial Drive as one approaches Devonport.) In 1917 when Vera [37] first 
married, she & Rex lived at Derby Rd, off Allenby Av. 
(See letter of 16.5.1917 from Harry to Vera.)
 www.purewa.co.nz gives
HALL Henry 79 Years died 17.3.1931; Serial No 10079;Date of Service 18.3.1931
Funeral Dir TJ McIvor & Sons Ltd, 434 Karangahape Rd; Block F 38 Plot 104:
get map from office & drive W til the end of Block A where a side road goes 
N; Row 38 is just past that side road starting with graves 75-78 WATSON,
79-83 WELLS, 84 JOHNSON, 85 KITCHENER, 86 BUTLER, ... 103 SILK, 104 HALL just
before a pohutukawa, with oak & fir trees to the right a few yards,
105 HALL/WILSON [see 33 Florence below], 106 LYES, ...
 Geoff [381] has his postcard "KSSC AWAROA arriving Helensville".

m 2.8.1877 at St Philip's,Walkley,Sheffield sp-Laura Elizabeth RATHBONE (1857 
Brook Lane?,Sheffield-6.11.1918 Auckland) 
StPhilips Sheffield Parish Notes Jan-Feb 1913: HH or LH has added to the etching of the church 'as it is now with railings round' - from Henry & Laura's postcard album now held by Geoff HALL
 
RIVELIN, presumably the home of Henry & Laura HALL in Sheffield, - from collection of Vera, held by KW.
 
  1861 census at Brook Lane, Sheffield with her parents & brother
 ex paddison49"att"hotmail.com 2005:                    
Thomas RATHBONE    43 1818   CHS    Wareham  Boot and shoe maker
Elizabeth RATHBONE 24 1836   NTT    Retford  Straw bonnet maker
Laura E. RATHBONE   3 1858   YKS    Sheffield
Thomas H. RATHBONE  2 1859   YKS    Sheffield  
 freebmd: m regd Sep qtr 1877 at Sheffield 9c 590. 
Laura is 644 in our RATHBONE tree at http://kitwithers.fortunecity.com/rathbone/rathbone.html This also gives Laura's WOLSTONCROFT and DRINKWATER ancestors and links to our PASLEY tree with our PASLEY, NEWBOLD, BYRON, SPIVEY ancestors.
 Re St Philip's church in St. Philip's Road, Sheffield: "The church completed 
around 1828, giving it's name to the surrounding area. It closed in 1940, 
demolished in 1952, and the graveyard finally removed about 1994."  
Laura HALL nee RATHBONE c1890 from Henry & Laura's album via Geoff HALL.

Henry and Laura c1915 (74 kb).

Possibly Mrs Laura HALL & her 2 oldest children aged c2 & 3.

Laura HALL outside LEBU, their home in Devonport, c1915 - from collection of Geoff HALL
 
 Laura c1918 (20 kb).

St Philip's where they married (50 kb).

Here are the addresses of relatives Laura wrote out for Harry (46 below) when he left for WW1. (103 kb).

 
 
Henry & Laura emigrated to New Zealand in 1879 arriving with their first child.
 "There is an entry in the Auckland Passenger Index for 
Laura and Henry HALL arriving in Auckland on the LEBU on 24/10/1879."
- Thanks to Karen KALOPULU, Family History Librarian, PO Box 4138, Auckland,
 tel (09)307-7773 kalopulK"att"akcity.govt.nz 2001.
NZ Herald 25.10.1879: ARRIVALS Lebu, barque, [Captain] LINDSAYdr, from London. 
Passengers: Saloon (2) Steerage - Henry HALL, Laura HALL, Laura E. HALL [& 26
others. No other HALL are included nor any RATHBONE.]
Their arrivals are also at http://0-www.aucklandcity.govt.nz.www.elgar.govt.nz

BB found their arrival on the site for Auckland passenger arrivals 1838-1886
 http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll
 Full passenger lists are available from the newspaper "New Zealand Herald" 
records in person at the Auckland Research Center.          

A google web search for LEBU turned up their ship & what looks like 3 others:

(1): http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~dchamber/shipsl.htm
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~dchamber/shipsl.htm#lebu
AJHR 1879 Section H10 page 25 Return of Wrecks
Date of Casualty        : 16 Aug 1878
Name of Master          : Henry Govan McKENZIE
Age of Vessel           : 10 years
Rig                     : Barque
Register Tonnage        : 726
Number of Crew          : 22
Number of Passengers    : 14
Nature of Cargo         : General
Nature of Casualty      : Loss of life
Number of Lives Lost    : 1
Place of Accident       : Lat. 40o 57'S., Long. 59o 8'E
Wind Direction          : SW
Wind Force              : Heavy
Finding of Court of Inquiry
Casualty caused by sea coming on board and throwing captain against the winch.
(His head was split open crown to nose.)
  My guess is that this WAS their ship, as it seems unlikely that another ship 
of the same name would arrive NZ 14 months later. 

(2): There is prison ship LEBU in Chile 1999 holding political prisoners.

(3): The Index to Ships (c50,000) Mentioned in Maritime History Books
at http://faculty.washington.edu/petermcc/shipindex.html
lists LEBU gas boat page 449 of book by NEWELL, Gordon, ed. 
"The H. W. McCurdy Marine History of the Pacific Northwest. Seattle:
 Superior Publishing Company, 1966. Subtitled, "An illustrated review of the 
 growth and development of the maritime industry from 1895, ..."

(4): "log of logs - a catalog of logs journals shipboard diaries letters ...
1788-1988 for Oz & NZ.." by Ian NICHOLSON 18 Wununga Cr, Yaroomba Qnsld 4573.

Henry & Laura HALL's home at Cheltenham, Devonport, Auckland - from Henry & Laura's album now held by Geoff HALL
 
Laura seated in her garden - from Henry's album now held by Geoff HALL
 
Is this one of Henry & Laura's girls aged c10? - from their album now held by Geoff HALL
 
Are these 2 of Henry & Laura's grandchildren? - from their album now held by Geoff HALL
 
Who is this woman? - from Henry & Laura's album now held by Geoff HALL
 
Who is this older woman & girl? - from Henry & Laura's album now held by Geoff HALL
 
Who are these 9 young women?- from Henry & Laura's album now held by Geoff HALL
 

  Laura died 1918 at her home at 79 Park Rd West, Auckland aged 61. (Listed as
71 Park Rd [Grafton] in website memorial of Harry [35].) Rates records 
confirmed FERN NOOK as 79 Park Rd West [opposite Park Ave] not 71. It is now 
The School of Optometry/the School of Medicine, Auckland University Grafton 
Campus. Laura died of a long & painfull illness -KT. [I thought she died in
the 1918 flu epidemic.]

Death certificate: Laura Elizabeth HALL d 6.11.1918 at 79 Park Road, Auckland
of cerebral haemorrhage 1 hours, daughter of Thomas RATHBONE and Elizabeth nee 
PASLEY; buried 8.11.1918 at Purewa by Rev WA KEAY? Anglican; b Sheffield,
38 years in NZ [so arrived c1880]; married at Sheffield at age 20 to Henry 
HALL; ages of issue: M 36 32 29 19 F 38 30 24 21; TJ McIVOR undertaker.

The following info was found by Kay TRAYES at the Takapuna Library and Archives
in 2002.

1 Dominion Rd,Devonport (LEBU) is a beautiful large character villa with huge
old trees, on the corner of Dominion Rd (NOW Allenby Rd - Can someone check if 
this is still No. 1?) as 1 Allenby Rd is not next door to 7 Derby St but across
the road from the house next door to 7 Derby St) and Derby St
and opposite a park; is newly-clad and painted and is the original home.  
The records show the rates paid by Laura HALL. 
These 2 photos of LEBU taken 2002 are from Kay. One from the corner, the other from Dominion (now Allenby) Rd shows the gate with a space where it seems once was a plaque "Lebu".
 Kay told me in 2006 it is on the market for c$950,000.
 
7 Derby St, Devonport, next door on a more sloped section, where Vera and Rex 
lived is a 
smaller attractive pioneer style villa with a long verandah facing the road, 
only an off-road space for one car, and the original stained-glass front 
door panel with the inscription - RIVELIN (not Riverlin) is named after their
 in Sheffield, which in turn was named after Rivelin Valley, Sheffield!
RIVELIN, presumably the home of Henry & Laura HALL in Sheffield, - from collection of Vera, held by KW.
 
This photo shows RIVELIN on the front door of their Devonport home. Seated on left is 31 Laura ASKEW with son 311 Ian c3 (so the year is c1917) & on right is 3-sp Laura HALL & a boy standing in a sailor suit, presumably 324 Arthur FARRAR c4 or 331 Raymond BRAMBLEY c6. Can anyone confirm? - from collection of Vera, held by KW.
 
 
 http://maps.google.co.nz/ gives a photo of their Devonport house - close to 
Allenby Ave.
On the door the print is upper case with the R and N large, sloping to smaller 
print with the E in the middle the smallest letter. Harry wrote to Vera that 
he was pleased to hear that she and Rex were living in the Derby St home.  
  This home is included in the same rates as 1 Dominion Rd - they are Lots 22 
and 23 Area 5- both have white picket fences. RIVELIN had a Barfoot & Thompson 
sold sign out front. B&T office told us it sold before it was photographed for 
advertising...
  Henry HALL also owned another property in Derby St and sold 60ft x 100ft to 
the Post Office.  
These 2 photos of RIVELIN taken 2002 are from Kay.
 
Henry also owned 61 Albert Rd around the corner from the Derby St properties. 
     
2 Beaconsfield St is on record as rates paid by Henry HALL, harder to 
photograph due to a large wooden vine- covered fence in the front and a car in 
the driveway but we took a photo anyway.  It is a really lovely old rambling 
home with big verandahs front and back and big windows, on a flat section. 
Harry must have loved this home and Street to name his trench Beaconsfield.  
       
Lovers Walk, Devonport is aptly named, an attractive, short, narrow, no exit 
road leading to Cheltenham Beach lined with pohutukawas and renamed Arawa St. 
 
1 Lovers Walk where Vera and Rex lived after their marriage is a typical bay villa of the era. It has had an addition to the top since they lived there. -Kay T 2002.

KT has sent me this wonderful 1896 photo of the Devonport Bowling Club members - he is 2nd on L. 10 kb


Of note too is rates paid by Henry HALL for 17 Cheltenham Tce now Oxford Tce. 
This property is opposite Cheltenham Beach.
All these name changes of roads !  All those properties owned by the HALLs !  
     
Rates Records show Henry HALL owned a dwelling on the corner of Vauxhall Tce 
and Vauxhall Rd occupied by Geo BRAMLEY (note spelling no 'b'- lots of spelling
errors occur in records- should be BRAMBLEY).   -Kay T 2002.  

Laura's death notice states that her brother Thomas H. RATHBONE lived at 
Kingsland, Auckland. www.purewa.co.nz gives
 HALL Laura Elizabeth Age 61,Death 6.11.1918,Serial No 6559, Service 9.11.1918
  Funeral Dir TJ McIvor & Sons Ltd, 434 Karangahape Road, Auckland
  Block F 38 Plot 105.

At last count in 2001, Henry and Laura HALL have 8 children, 15 grandchildren,
 46 greatgrandchildren, 107 greatgreatgrandchildren, and 14 greatgreatgreats!
In what follows I have separated their 8 children Laura, Sylvia, Florence,
Evelyn, Reginald, Harry, Vera and Leslie by dashed lines -----, and their 15 
grandchildren by broken lines - - - - -.
Their 8 children c1900: Laura, Sylvia, Florence, Eveline, Harry, Reg, Vera, Leslie - from their album now held by Geoff HALL
 

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31  2--Laura Louise HALL b 1878 England or possibly on the LEBU 
d 3.1.1953 Auckland.  Presumably she is Laura Louise HALL
b Jun Q 1879 Ecclesall Bierlow [Sheffield], Yorkshire - West Riding.
  Teacher at Rawene, Northland. In the 1915-17 diary of her brother Harry [35] 
below, her address was "Ohura School, King Country". 
  In the birthday book c1888 of 646 of ../rathbone/rathbone.html
 her birthday is March 16.
Two HALL girls aged c8, but which? - from Henry's album now held by Geoff HALL
 
Henry & Laura's eldest 4 daughters, Laura, Sylvia, Florence & Eveline HALL c1905 - from Henry's album now held by Geoff HALL
 
& another of Henry & Laura's eldest 4 daughters, Laura, Sylvia, Florence & Eveline HALL c1905 - from Henry's album now held by Geoff HALL
 
Laura c21 - from Henry's album now held by Geoff HALL. Another copy was held by Vera: IMG_4447.JPG, IMG_4448.JPG